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allsidius
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volksfahrer
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it´s a late 49 export, looks great...but can´t see front/rear apron,fenders,headlights...these parts are pretty expensive if wrong, engine looks right to me...
Price is ok...if the car is VERY original,just my opinion. |
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SplitPersonality
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| The chassis number is -1-0114XXX-, so it is an early August 1949 car. |
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franklinunes
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hello hello
The car looks nice,
u should try to know if this car has the maching numbers, if the engine is the original from the car, that make the car worth much more.
- the wipers seems the round ones so is ok.
- the sunvisor and rear mirror seems oval (can be seen the "lip") no quite expensive.
- the headlights seems to have VW logo, the housing cant be seen if is correct.
- the fenders appear to be the correct to the split
- the 16" seems also ok
- not sure about the front seats, seems oval? can anyone confirm 
cannot be seen if it has the ashtray in the back seat
- pictures from the semaphores
- cannot see if the trims are correct
- the outside mirror is not ok i suppose can't be there according with previous posts, should be the one "attached to the door" and not in the hinge.
- Like volksfathrer said u should ask to see front appron inside to details and rear appron.
In my opinion u need closer pictures, you should ask more detailed pictures if u are really interested in the car:
The price is ok like volksfathrer said, but u should ask about this details, just to know what u are buying, and what u need to invest if u decide to upgrade to original parts from the car.
Doesnt mean this details can change something because the car is there and looks great just let u know what u need to buy or change.
Also my opinion is the car very nice, but most important the maching numbers u should know if the car all maching. (pan+body+engine) that would be sure the car values what he is asking.
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Bengt H
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Taillights should bee with the thin aluminium ring I think 
Seems to have cutout in the doorglass(or is it a reflex?) should not have. |
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nlorntson
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| Bengt H wrote: |
| Taillights should bee with the thin aluminium ring I think |
Yes, this is true, and they are hard to find. Also bumper guards are wrong.
It also looks like the Heater lever behind the E-brake pivot on the tunnel is a later 1952 version but it's hard to see for sure. |
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franklinunes
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| nlorntson wrote: |
| Bengt H wrote: |
| Taillights should bee with the thin aluminium ring I think |
Yes, this is true, and they are hard to find. Also bumper guards are wrong.
It also looks like the Heater lever behind the E-brake pivot on the tunnel is a later 1952 version but it's hard to see for sure. |
This parts you always have repro in good quality, see the adds.
regards |
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SplitPersonality
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| franklinunes wrote: |
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| Bengt H wrote: |
| Taillights should bee with the thin aluminium ring I think |
Yes, this is true, and they are hard to find. Also bumper guards are wrong.
It also looks like the Heater lever behind the E-brake pivot on the tunnel is a later 1952 version but it's hard to see for sure. |
This parts you always have repro in good quality, see the adds.
regards |
As far as I know - nobody makes the April49-Feb1950 "thin style" alu ring taillights as reproductions. If somebody knows of some - please post.
The "thick style" chrome (1939-April49) is available yes - in unbeleivable quality from Thomasz in Poland. |
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ovals4ever
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SplitPersonality
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Wow - thanks! |
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vanaru
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| Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:53 am Post subject: is this true? |
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u should try to know if this car has the maching numbers, if the engine is the original from the car, that make the car worth much more.
how much more? my thought is that it is nice, but the engine numbers don't match the vin anyway right?
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franklinunes
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| Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:56 am Post subject: Re: is this true? |
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| vanaru wrote: |
u should try to know if this car has the maching numbers, if the engine is the original from the car, that make the car worth much more.
how much more? my thought is that it is nice, but the engine numbers don't match the vin anyway right? |
? don't? why?  why not? the engine matchs with the pan and body and is possible to know if is the correct from factory, only the body I think there is no way to be sure if is the correct body according with the pan and engine, not sure about this part.
The engine and pan that is possible to have it, the body should be near the pan number, has i said not sure about this.
Sooo the car values more and this is often written here. Everyone speaks about this, not me.
Is not about to drive a car and enjoy the moment or not, is about details which cost more, if u buy a car with full of acessorys Ex: IA50 telefunken will not cost the same exacly with a clock in the same condition... 
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nlorntson
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The plate riveted on in the front (behind the spare tire) will have in the upper right hand corner, the number stamped in the tunnel (under the rear seat). This is how you can tell if the body and the pan were delivered together assuming the plate has never been removed and the number on the tunnel has not been replaced.
Other than a birth certificate, there is no way to know what engine was delivered with the car. I hear that as of late, VW is not providing the engine number (it is on all the older birth certificates I have) unless the owner provides the number in the BC request.
In general, if you have the correct frame number, front axle number, rear axle number, engine number, body number, and pan number all from the same month and year it's about as good as it gets. A birth certificate that backs it all up is icing on the cake. |
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franklinunes
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| Other than a birth certificate, there is no way to know what engine was delivered with the car. I hear that as of late, VW is not providing the engine number (it is on all the older birth certificates I have) unless the owner provides the number in the BC request. |
Has I made with the 2 splits I have, they (wolfsburg museum) were not provind me the engine number in the birth certificate, but I provided them the engine numbers and they confirmed it was correct ones, so accordind their registers was the correct engine from the factory.
This is a maching numbers engine and pan, the body should be closer them.
@vanaru is possible.
@allsidius the car is nice, is about what nlorntson said:
"In general, if you have the correct frame number, front axle number, rear axle number, engine number, body number, and pan number all from the same month and year it's about as good as it gets. A birth certificate that backs it all up is icing on the cake"
If u dont give too much importance to this and u have money buy it 
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allsidius
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Thanks guys, the car looks great and its not too far from home, so I may go look at it. I was a bit puzzled by the bracket for the hand crank on the rear bumper, but no corresponding hole in the apron. Thought the hand crank was gone by 49, maybe the bumper is a year too old. These bumpers are quite fragile.
What about the color, is that original? Don't remember having seen any early cars in this color. Thanks for all valuable input.
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franklinunes
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| allsidius wrote: |
Thanks guys, the car looks great and its not too far from home, so I may go look at it. I was a bit puzzled by the bracket for the hand crank on the rear bumper, but no corresponding hole in the apron. Thought the hand crank was gone by 49, maybe the bumper is a year too old. These bumpers are quite fragile.
What about the color, is that original? Don't remember having seen any early cars in this color. Thanks for all valuable input. |
Nice point of view! the color seems not correct
look it here
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/paintcodestype1.php |
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nlorntson
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| allsidius wrote: |
| I was a bit puzzled by the bracket for the hand crank on the rear bumper, but no corresponding hole in the apron. Thought the hand crank was gone by 49, maybe the bumper is a year too old. These bumpers are quite fragile. . |
Page M-3 of Progressive Refinements says the Starting Handle is no longer supplied by default sometime in October 1949. I think it was an option however, for several more years. |
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BryanNunes
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| Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Should have a "Jacketed K Manifold". |
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franklinunes
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| Should have a "Jacketed K Manifold". |
not quite sure of that:
"K" Intake Manifold, Non-Jacketed Style, 1945-50
"K" Manifold, Jacketed Style, 1951-52
according previous post and information.
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SplitPersonality
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| Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 3:23 am Post subject: |
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| franklinunes wrote: |
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| Should have a "Jacketed K Manifold". |
not quite sure of that:
"K" Intake Manifold, Non-Jacketed Style, 1945-50
"K" Manifold, Jacketed Style, 1951-52
according previous post and information.
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I think you are right about the franklin; This picture shows my mid-June-1949 engine which is basically untouched since that time.. Non-jacketed, undoubtably.
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