Ideas on what to do with dead 1914

andk5591

Put 1000 miles on a new 1914. (Had new case, p/c, heads, everything) Valve broke (still not sure why it happened) and it trashed the head and poked a big hole in the piston. This happened pretty quickly, so other engine damage may be negligible. Trying to decide what to do with it. Its a long block now, since everything was moved to the replacement engine. Does have a set of 1.4 ratio rockers.

I have no projects coming up where I will need it. Obviously if I was keeping it, I would do a complete teardown, assess the crank, rods, etc, would do new bearings, possible cam, new set of heads and hopefully find a single 94mm P/C. But then it may sit on my shelf for years.

If I was going to try to sell it, without doing a complete teardown, what is something like this worth? Kind of a pig in a poke.... Thanks in advance.
_________________
D-Dubya Manx clone 1914. Ex wifes car.
Rosie 65 bug - My mostly stock daily driver.
Woodie 69 VW woodie (Hot VWs 7/12).
"John's car" 64 VW woodie - The first ever
Maxine 61 Cal-look bug - Ex-wifes car.
66 bug project - Real patina & Suby conversion
There's more, but not keeping them...

Glenn · Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:30 pm Post subject:

You really have to take it apart to know the condition of the insides.
_________________
Glenn
74 Beetle Specs | 74 Beetle Restoration | 2180cc Engine
"You may not get what you pay for, but you always pay for what you get"

Member #1009

#BlueSquare

עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי

wompninja · Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:34 pm Post subject:

I'll take it for $100.
_________________
Pics of my 1970 Satin Black Type 1 build

baked beetle · Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:40 pm Post subject:

take it apart or you'll get lowball offers /\/\/\ and it takes like no time to split a case
_________________
These days people like me are hard to find- we don't give a damn what you think, about what we think. - JR
____________________
66' His
57' Theirs
63' Hers
62' Drag Bug - Theirs 13.1 @ 101 mph (GONE)

andk5591 · Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:42 pm Post subject:

Yeah, I know Glenn - and the tentative plan is to do that over the winter. I just built a shelf in my garage to get it off my engine dolly and was thinking about "do I really need this" as my wife and I were setting it up on it.

Have to tell ya - what sucks is that it ran sooooooo well - I wimped out bought a 1955 longblock to replace it so I could get the car back on the road right away and the 1955 has been a lot of headaches. And I think the 1914 had as much power as my new stroker....maybe even more low end....Oh well......
_________________
D-Dubya Manx clone 1914. Ex wifes car.
Rosie 65 bug - My mostly stock daily driver.
Woodie 69 VW woodie (Hot VWs 7/12).
"John's car" 64 VW woodie - The first ever
Maxine 61 Cal-look bug - Ex-wifes car.
66 bug project - Real patina & Suby conversion
There's more, but not keeping them...

Glenn · Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:44 pm Post subject:

I had a valve poke a hole in a piston.

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

It rattled around and poked a hole in the case.

It didn't leave anything inside to to salvage.
_________________
Glenn
74 Beetle Specs | 74 Beetle Restoration | 2180cc Engine
"You may not get what you pay for, but you always pay for what you get"

Member #1009

#BlueSquare

עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי

earthquake · Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:07 pm Post subject:

Glenn
A little JB weld and a buffer and you will be good to go.

Casey
_________________
74 CLASS 11 LOOK-A-LIKE
69 DUNE BUGGY
79 INTERNATIONAL SCOUT II
05 SCION XB SERIES RELEASE 2[#437]
95 Chevy C3500 dually
98 Ford E150
Link to Kelly J. Nolte 3/20/53 - 11/6/08
https://time-zonelabs.blogspot.com/p/about-kelly.html
DEATH TO CHINGERS!
[From a military recruitment poster in the novel "The Stainless Steel Rat" By Harry Harrison]

Lobotomy · Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:44 pm Post subject:

andk5591 · Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 4:45 am Post subject:

Mine didnt make it into the case fortunately - but there were chunks of piston in the bottom. I just have to put together a worse case shopping list and then decide if its worth doing.

But here's a question - What would be the least damage done if I was lucky? In other words, is it possible my rods, crank, cam, rockers, oil pump, etc are OK and I can get away with bearings, new piston and cylinder and heads? The rocker adjuster on the eaten valve looks a little beat up.
_________________
D-Dubya Manx clone 1914. Ex wifes car.
Rosie 65 bug - My mostly stock daily driver.
Woodie 69 VW woodie (Hot VWs 7/12).
"John's car" 64 VW woodie - The first ever
Maxine 61 Cal-look bug - Ex-wifes car.
66 bug project - Real patina & Suby conversion
There's more, but not keeping them...

VWporscheGT3 · Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 6:43 am Post subject:

i wouldnt even think about re useing the rods.... count the one that was connected to the "holy" piston bent. you may not see it , but i bet you it is. time to step up to atleast a 78mm crank too.... party time! Dancing

_________________
If you have any questions about Forged ICON 4032 VW pistons just shoot me a line.

mark tucker · Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 7:33 am Post subject:

see what rc wants to fix it for,he's up there in pa.never know those headaches might be a warning sigin,you might need a spair. you never know.I have 2 spairs,both appart 1 not finished & 1 because I have fuckwithit itis and want to see the difrence between the tall cb big chicken intakes and the short bugpoop intakes(power/torque wize) and a slight oil seep(I dont like seeps, even if they take months to drip)+ I just like to see how everything looks inside,looks like new.

scottvw · Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 8:35 am Post subject:

I had a similiar situation happen to me, however I didn't punch through the piston. I put new heads, pistons and cylinders on to rebuild it. 500 miles later the cam went flat. If I were a betting man, your lifters and cams are probably whacked.

The only thing good is the case.

Wayne26 · Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 1:03 pm Post subject:

I need it for $300 Wink


Hello! Log in or Register \| Help \| Donate \| Buy Shirts	See all banner ads \| Advertise on TheSamba.com

Forum Index -> Performance/Engines/Transmissions		Share:
		Print View

	Forum Index -> Performance/Engines/Transmissions	All times are Mountain Standard Time/Pacific Daylight Savings Time
Page 1 of 1