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Where would you mount an electric winch?
Keep it traditional, bolt it to the front bumper.
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Keep it stealth, mount it under the van.
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Keep it more functional/versatile, receivers front and rear.
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Whats a winch ?
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Weenches, we donneed no steenking weenches!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:56 am    Post subject: Electric winch mounting and winch options. Reply with quote

Started this topic in my custom bumper build thread but I think that there is enough interest to start this one as well.

I have been trying to decide about where to mount my winch. If it is mounted on the bumper or in the old spare tire area it will be out of the way and more secure from theft but if I keep it removable using 2" receivers then I can relocate it front to rear as needed.

Mounting it under the van in the spare tire area keeps the center of gravity lower, looks stealthy, and free's up space on the bumper but I worry about water crossings, mud, and being able to reach the free spool lever and plug ins if the nose is buried in mud or rocks.

The receiver mount would give me the most versatility but can have its drawbacks as well.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is just a couple ive done,
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just do front and rear

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 5:11 pm    Post subject: winch Reply with quote

Blue Bay Bus I like the winch on the bumper. I have plans for the spare tire,2nd gas tank? I have an 8,000 lb. winch, don't think the 2 inch hitch would hold the torque . Would like a custom bumper and winch mt. but if the cost is to high i'll go with a Gary Lee mt. and use my stock bumper.But I will keep me eye on this to see where it goes. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My plan is to use a receiver mount in the reinforced bumpers I build, front and rear. I wouldn't need a winch for 95% of my trips but if I do it would be nice to be able to put it in either end, or possibly hook it on to another car that might be stuck and I couldn't get to it.

I think some Range Rovers had a center mounted winch with a pulley system so you could run it through the front or back. That would be pretty cool and we do have the space but you would want it set up before you enter the obstacle where you might get stuck.

You might be able to decrease the force the winch pulls using a pulley block? Not sure on my physics on that one.

I do like Das Mule's set up in the spare tire area though!

I am also thinking if you are planning on building or mounting the winch to the bumper, it's going to have to be reinforced anyway. A 2" receiver is going to be attached to the same bumper, so that's why I figure on using the receiver to mount it.

http://www.bb4wa.com/articles/Accessories-winch.html this guy doesn't like hitch mounted winches, and has some very valid points for not liking them.

I am not opposed to just a front bumper mounted winch, I just like the versatility of either end. Searching more on the internet reveals mixed results on peoples opinions on receiver mount winches. It will be interesting to read as more people chime in, hopefully with experiences with both.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The last thing I want is to haul a winch along on highway trips. I don't even have my winch mounted permently on my 4WD pickup. It's about 90 extra pounds to haul. I use it for Baja trips or southern Utah where I might need it but why haul it otherwise. I vote for the receiver mount front and rear.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ones with the air compressor built in do double duty so they are pretty handy.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone look into hydraulic-powered winches? You run a tap off your power steering line.
More expensive, though...


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't put the spare Yoko in the clamshell, too big, and I had a cheapo winch laying around, so:
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box tube thru the front crush beam

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converted the winch pan/fairlead bracket

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extra braces to the bottom welded seam

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hung the winch on some 4" C-section between the frame rails

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cutout in stock bumper

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150A breaker protects aux batt feeder and a 6ga feeder to front

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a bank of 4-relays that power all headlights and low-speed rad fan manual activation

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winch remote socket mounted in grille

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or this switch converts turn signal stalk switch to winch controller, at the same time activates idle speed boost and

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a big warning light when it is in winch mode. Small rocker with blue LED is rad fan low speed activation for offroading, also boosts idle speed.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well after nearly spending a night in my van tonight with the bumper wedged on a log and the van in well over 2' of water, I would definately vote for receiver mounted. Thanks to the case of beer which motivated the two good ole boys in the lifted Ranger who gave me a tug. This would have of course been avoidable if I had walked through this section of trail in question and if I had been travelling with another vehicle. Embarassed
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn Tencent thats awesome, I love it!!

I think that since I don't have money for two winches at this time I will be going for the 2" receiver route. I made this decision tonight for the simple reason that if a buddy of mine and I would have had the possibility to winch backwards about 7 hours ago we would not have been stuck for over an hour and a half.

Mind you, if we would have had an axe, shovel, and proper recovery gear OR a second vehicle Embarassed we would have been out alot quicker too Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was trying to keep my friend anonymous but since he made his post while I was writing mine I wonder if he'll allow me to post the video. Question

Maybe I should I wait till the wound has healed Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

canasync wrote:
I was trying to keep my friend anonymous but since he made his post while I was writing mine I wonder if he'll allow me to post the video. Question

Maybe I should I wait till the wound has healed Laughing


That would be appreciated.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think that since I don't have money for two winches at this time I will be going for the 2" receiver route. I made this decision tonight for the simple reason that if a buddy of mine and I would have had the possibility to winch backwards about 7 hours ago we would not have been stuck for over an hour and a half.

With a few snatch blocks it is possible to pull yourself backwards with winch on the front bumper.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

syncrodoka wrote:
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I think that since I don't have money for two winches at this time I will be going for the 2" receiver route. I made this decision tonight for the simple reason that if a buddy of mine and I would have had the possibility to winch backwards about 7 hours ago we would not have been stuck for over an hour and a half.

With a few snatch blocks it is possible to pull yourself backwards with winch on the front bumper.


Only with enough line and trees in the right places Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

canasync wrote:
syncrodoka wrote:
canasync wrote:


I think that since I don't have money for two winches at this time I will be going for the 2" receiver route. I made this decision tonight for the simple reason that if a buddy of mine and I would have had the possibility to winch backwards about 7 hours ago we would not have been stuck for over an hour and a half.

With a few snatch blocks it is possible to pull yourself backwards with winch on the front bumper.


Only with enough line and trees in the right places Smile


Trees are not always available. This is what I carry to Baja with me in my 4WD:
http://www.pullpal.com/
It saved my bacon one time when I tried to cross a dried up lagoon that had tracks going across it. "They must have been made by a much lighter vehicle than mine" I said as I sank into the mud, 10 miles down an aroyo with no one else around. 20 minutes and I was out of that mess.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tencentlife wrote:
Can't put the spare Yoko in the clamshell, too big, and I had a cheapo winch laying around, so:

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hung the winch on some 4" C-section between the frame rails



Dayamn bud, that's a sweet install!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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or this switch converts turn signal stalk switch to winch controller, at the same time activates idle speed boost and

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a big warning light when it is in winch mode. Small rocker with blue LED is rad fan low speed activation for offroading, also boosts idle speed.


Awesome post. I'm very inspired. Now I can't stop looking at winches online. The turn signal stock controller is brilliant!

Can you tell us how you boost the idle speed? I'd like to do that with a switch on my dash too.

Thanks![/quote]
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hidden winch is awesome.
Reciver mount is good move.
Keep the winch in truck until needed. I.got stuck with a buddy in a bronco had winch on front bumper Reciver and hit something in a big puddle that got us stuck plus ruined the winch. Nothing like loosing plan B in the middle of nowhere.
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