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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:40 pm    Post subject: :: AZ67CalBugs 1965 VW Bug Build :: Reply with quote

I just got this 65 bug last night. Excited to get working on it. Worked on it today and got a good look at the thing. It's in really great shape. I can't wait to start body work, hardly any.. and paint it.

Here is the last paint job I did..


SO I hope to out do that one on this car. I'd like to paint the car a metallic blue and do tan interior. We will see. I bet I change my mind 200 times before I actually paint it.



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I am getting new BRM center caps for the front. So they are flush like the rear. I have a question..

Since the front tires are 135s.. is that normal for the lip to look like that? Or is that cause the wheel is to wide. I am not sure what size the front wheel is.. but I am not sure if that lip sticking out like that is normal or not..

Let me know what you guys think!

I should have the body work done in the next week or so!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice car, and nice work. Looks like it's going to be a real gem.

That tire looks scarry to me. It almost looks like someone put a 14" tire on a 15" rim. I'd make damn sure things were okay before I ran 'em, and I wouldn't be anywhere close to it if someone tries to add air pressure to get the bead to seat.

(I know it can be done, and I know the guy that almost died from it. Exploding tires can do terrible, terrible things to a human.)
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have a set of 135s on brms and that is the same way mine are drive it for hours at a time never a problem
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

allmotor66 wrote:
i have a set of 135s on brms and that is the same way mine are drive it for hours at a time never a problem



Interesting, and good to hear.

Is it uniformly spaced like that all around the circumference? How about on the inside of the rim?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

zozo wrote:
allmotor66 wrote:
i have a set of 135s on brms and that is the same way mine are drive it for hours at a time never a problem



Interesting, and good to hear.

Is it uniformly spaced like that all around the circumference? How about on the inside of the rim?


Visually it looks fine. The bead is even and looks like it set good. Tire size is correct. I never really paid much attention to this before so I am not sure if it was normal.

The guy I purchased it from said it was normal for 135s.

I can't wait to get those front center caps! I mean have to use these big bus ones as shot glasses!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is why i use 145x15's. nice project.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bill may wrote:
this is why i use 145x15's. nice project.


Hey Bill!

Thanks for the info. I saw someone was running like 165/45/15s or something like that.. thought about doing that..

Will 145s take care of that?! IF so I will purchase a new set of tires for sure!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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bill may wrote:
this is why i use 145x15's. nice project.


Hey Bill!

Thanks for the info. I saw someone was running like 165/45/15s or something like that.. thought about doing that..

Will 145s take care of that?! IF so I will purchase a new set of tires for sure!

the 165/45/15 would put even more rubber on pavement. may be even better than 145's.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My 135s on a 5" BRM have been inflated to POP out against the lip. Not sure what it takes, but that installation doesn't look right.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It has a narrowed 5.5 inch beam. I think I would like a little more rubber on the front for traction purposes.

I wonder if it is as simple as putting more pressure in there to have them POP to the outter bead ring?

Wonder who I could call here in Phoneix, maybe CE and see what they think.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They look like the EMPI reproduction wheels. My friend has those on his '67, and they look just like your pictures. It's just a characteristic of the wheels.

If it bother's you, trade up for the Flat Four Repop's, they look much better.

145's may give a little better/safer ride, but they are not going to pop out any more than the 135's.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

61SNRF wrote:
They look like the EMPI reproduction wheels. My friend has those on his '67, and they look just like your pictures. It's just a characteristic of the wheels.

If it bother's you, trade up for the Flat Four Repop's, they look much better.

145's may give a little better/safer ride, but they are not going to pop out any more than the 135's.

my 15 x 5's are BRM Flat 4's i bought in 1997.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bill may wrote:

my 15 x 5's are BRM Flat 4's i bought in 1997.


The new ones Flat Four currently make look much more like the original magnesium BRMs than the first ones they made. They even have casting marks like originals.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK! Here is a stupid question.

I went to address the alignment issues with the car lastnight. The steering wheel straight would have the right front tire straight but the left (driver) wheel would be almost at 11 O'clock. I figured not a problem, just need to extended the tie rod out on the driver side to get the wheel to even out. I found that since the 5.5 inch narrowed beam the tie rod was 'too short'. I do have an extra tie rod that will seem to work. I am going to put that in today. The other side seems to be cut and welded right. It has a bead around the entire cut and each side has a hole drilled with a weld in it. I would assume some type of support between the two.

Since I have a 5.5 inch narrowed beam, something I've never delt with before.. I noticed there are no upper shock mounts.

My question is.. with a 5.5 narrowed beam - is that something the PO just didn't get around to doing? Or since it's so narrow.. is that how it's suppose to be?!!?! I've been reading up on the narrowed beams and still confused. I see some with, some without and some mounted to the body..

Any insight guys?
Been reading and reading..

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good reading here...

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well tore apart the front end due to an alignment issues. Was the tie rods. I'm going to sell this 5.5 narrow beam and ditch it for a 2" narrow beam with drop spindles so I can run shocks.

Started doing some body work!

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did some more work on the bug. Going to sell the 5.5 narrowed beam and get a 2" adjustable one. I hope to have it primed this evening!

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was able to get the body work to about 90%. I figured once it's primed and I can block sand it I could address the little things.. figured more may pop up in the final block sanding process anyways. But here are some updated photos..

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And yes.. I did wear a mask.. here I was just adjusting the gun. :0)


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm going to sell this 5.5 narrow beam and ditch it for a 2" narrow beam with drop spindles so I can run shocks.


I would suggest you get a 4" beam with shock towers. The 2" beam in conjunction with the BRM's and spindles will push the wheel out farther and you could potentially run into some fender rubbing issues. There are a number of 4" beams with shock towers out there.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I totally agree! I have a 4" beam and I love it! Not trying to start a war here but I would recommend taking a look at some of the pics out there for the stance you want. Originally I was going to purchase a CB 2" narrowed beam. Then thought I wanted a 3". I called KCW and spoke with Kevin and Franz down there. They recommended a 4" beam with shocks. Couldn't be happier. Just my .02.
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