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IAMIROY
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 Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 5:37 pm Post subject: JER*FAB lowered spring plates |
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| Has anyone used these lowered spring plates on their Type 3 or Type 1? |
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Soul Built
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| I have them on my Type 1. I've never seen a Jer*Fab product that isn't made extremely well. Im local enough to live within 10 minutes of his "lab" |
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Barracudabrendon
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Jer*Fab plates are top notch A+++
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IAMIROY
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| Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks guys. We'll give them a try then. |
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lawn ninja
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What do they run, cost wise? I wanted a set for my 65. They extend out farther in the rear too in order to correct the toe in issue, right?
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IAMIROY
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VWporscheGT3
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Iamiroy, Palmdale eh? i grew up off of 15th west and AVE P. i moved up to Carson City , NV in 2004... hows good ole Palmdale?
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IAMIROY
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Hey GT3. Palmdale is the same ole same. I actually just moved back here. I moved to Spokane, WA in 1990. I had enough of the snow after 21 years. My kids grew up and moved on so I decided to come back to friends and warm weather 
I am actually in Quartz Hill area. How's Carson City? I heard it's nice there.
Did you go to Palmdale High? |
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Matthew Tolbert
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i have the 2" on my notch. just measuring with a tape measure i have the toe adjusted to around 1/4". i plan to have it aligned properly one day. the only thing with them is i need to drill a hole for the emergency brake cable to pass through so it isnt coming into the backing plate at a wierd angle. he may do this for you if you ask since i have seen it done on the 4" plates he makes. hope this helps.
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IAMIROY
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| Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Mathew. Can you post a pick of your notch with the 2" drop in back.
Thanks. |
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68notch
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Soul Built
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| Can someone explain the advantage if any of these spring plates over simply adjusting the torsion bars as most do? |
When you install these plates, your car retains the stock torsion tension as well as eliminating the toe-in effect caused by lowering your car. It reduces premature tire wear created by lowering by the torsions. Again, I have mine on my T1. |
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68notch
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| Can someone explain the advantage if any of these spring plates over simply adjusting the torsion bars as most do? |
When you install these plates, your car retains the stock torsion tension as well as eliminating the toe-in effect caused by lowering your car. It reduces premature tire wear created by lowering by the torsions. Again, I have mine on my T1. |
And these are suited to the type 3 also?
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IAMIROY
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| Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 6:52 am Post subject: |
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| 68notch wrote: |
| Can someone explain the advantage if any of these spring plates over simply adjusting the torsion bars as most do? |
When you install these plates, your car retains the stock torsion tension as well as eliminating the toe-in effect caused by lowering your car. It reduces premature tire wear created by lowering by the torsions. Again, I have mine on my T1. |
And these are suited to the type 3 also? |
Yes, Type 1 and Type 3 swing axle. |
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Matthew Tolbert
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| Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 11:02 am Post subject: |
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here it is with 17" raiders and 2" drop plates from jer fab
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68notch
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| Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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here it is with 17" raiders and 2" drop plates from jer fab |
Nice car, if only I were rolling wide 5's.
If the cars are lowered with the torsion bar adjustment wouldn't the tension still be the same since the bar is just in a different position?
The car still weighs the same and the bars carry that same load??
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IAMIROY
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| Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Matthew Tolbert wrote: |
here it is with 17" raiders and 2" drop plates from jer fab |
Nice Notch Matthew. Thanks for the pic. |
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RennyRB
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| Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Soul_VW wrote: |
| 68notch wrote: |
| Can someone explain the advantage if any of these spring plates over simply adjusting the torsion bars as most do? |
When you install these plates, your car retains the stock torsion tension as well as eliminating the toe-in effect caused by lowering your car. It reduces premature tire wear created by lowering by the torsions. Again, I have mine on my T1. |
This tension nonsense has got to stop.. If you use the same torsion bar, neither a stock plate or a lowered plate are going to effect different tension on that bar.
These are for toe-in corrected and if you are extremely low, will give you back your travel. At 2 splines on stock plates, I dont hit my bumpstops, so the travel point is a bit moot.
Take all this with a grain of salt, I don't expect to end this argument anytime soon..
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vlad01
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^This.
exactly what I thought, I see no benefit unless you are super low. |
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