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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 7:47 am    Post subject: Full length Westfalia roof rack Reply with quote

Does anyone know where i can find this rack setup? Or was it a one off custom?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 9:11 am    Post subject: Re: Full length Westfalia roof rack Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 9:37 am    Post subject: Re: Full length Westfalia roof rack Reply with quote

After seeing what they asked for those in the photos, I built my own for a fraction of the cost.

He deleted the original classified.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 11:18 am    Post subject: Re: Full length Westfalia roof rack Reply with quote

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...I built my own for a fraction of the cost.


Of course it was a fraction of the cost. Did you pay the workers a decent hourly wage? Pay any taxes or provide health insurance? Was adequate time put into R&D to productionalize the product in a profitable way?

That said, do you have some photos of your DIY build?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 11:48 am    Post subject: Re: Full length Westfalia roof rack Reply with quote

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Does anyone know where i can find this rack setup? Or was it a one off custom?

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I'm be curious to know how much weight that fiberglass top can support? That roof cant be light, plus the weight of additional stuff you carry up top....
The classified add has this installed on a tintop.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 12:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Full length Westfalia roof rack Reply with quote

*Exactly* my thought.

I cut a custom-fit 2x3 to help support our roof front and center — even though nothing’s up there anymore. There’s no question it’s saved fiberglass cracking and poptop hardware many, MANY times.

Aside, Hey Stuart! Cool
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 12:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Full length Westfalia roof rack Reply with quote

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I'm be curious to know how much weight that fiberglass top can support? That roof cant be light, plus the weight of additional stuff you carry up top....
The classified add has this installed on a tintop.


My experience is that the roof can support far more weight than should be up there or that can be easily lifted. Years ago I had four bars, a full box and full-length basket (mainly for carrying wet things). I had to add 150 psi gas springs to have any chance of lifting it single-handedly (before that it required two people). It was an exercise in excess and the roof did fine until I reversed the madness.

The Yakima racking is steel and probably quite a bit heavier than Syncrohead's rack.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 12:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Full length Westfalia roof rack Reply with quote

Plan on losing *at least* 10% mpg with a roof box. This came from 61 months of daily use.

Also plan on a considerable raising of center-of-gravity. Think “teeter-totter.”

Best advice on almost every system in these vans is to live without — or buy a Sprinter.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 12:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Full length Westfalia roof rack Reply with quote

It looks like Bostig is building one. Quite expensive (at least to me), but really nice! They're claiming a max 1800 lbs capacity.
https://www.bostig.com/bostig-gunny-rack-system/

EDIT, I just noticed, it seems to be for tin-tops. Embarassed
I'll leave this post for info purposes.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 2:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Full length Westfalia roof rack Reply with quote

Synergy Solutions wrote:
Does anyone know where i can find this rack setup? Or was it a one off custom?

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Looks like your question was answered with a lot of extra sauce added Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 3:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Full length Westfalia roof rack Reply with quote

Yea, my question sidetracked the OP question.... :/
If using this large of roof rack on a fiberglass top I would assume the brackets that also place some weight on the rain gutter would be better suited or less of a risk of cracking.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2024 4:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Full length Westfalia roof rack Reply with quote

I think this has been hashed out quite a bit on this site with the "consensus" being that the roof itself is very stout, but the roof struts and the the operator's shoulder strength being the limiting factor.

My canoe weighs 80 LBS and and has travelled without any problem on the roof of my Westy for over 10 years. I no longer risk stressing my struts by popping my roof with the boat on top but have ZERO reservations loading the boat onto the roof for travel.

That roof rack doesn't weigh squat. What do you intend to put on it?

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2024 7:33 am    Post subject: Re: Full length Westfalia roof rack Reply with quote

It is important to point out that OPs photo has the CVC artificial rain gutter brackets that put the weight on the rain gutter when closed. With those, I feel comfortable carrying 100lbs+ in my cargo box/roof rack. Now opening it is another story Very Happy

Edit. actually it only looks like those are on the front brackets.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2024 10:50 am    Post subject: Re: Full length Westfalia roof rack Reply with quote

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Mateo83 wrote:
...I built my own for a fraction of the cost.


Of course it was a fraction of the cost. Did you pay the workers a decent hourly wage? Pay any taxes or provide health insurance? Was adequate time put into R&D to productionalize the product in a profitable way?

That said, do you have some photos of your DIY build?


yes, see other posts. My brother, the licensed/ coded welder, didn't complain about the cash he made either. Fortunately we're all gainfully employed and double or tripe insured Boo hoo! .
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2024 11:50 am    Post subject: Re: Full length Westfalia roof rack Reply with quote

Go, DIY! This forum largely exists and thrives from that.

I also find it a little ironic that so many claim to have concern for the health of US businesses and workers, then turn right around and promote buying everything from Amazon and Wal-Mart, and link sales of crap probably made by little kids.

Clarifying, too… the issue with weight on the fiberglass roofs isn’t so much about risks when closed, but rather when open and subject to crosswinds.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2024 9:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Full length Westfalia roof rack Reply with quote

Well this went way off topic Laughing

Im well aware of weight concerns with fiberglass yall, and jack bombey pop top struts are my go to (mark is the best!)

I simply love the look, and how lights are mounted. Just a cool design is all.

Yall may continue your convo about how quality, cost, yada yada and fiberglass bending yada yada. I got my answer. Someone else can takeover this thread now Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 12:12 am    Post subject: Re: Full length Westfalia roof rack Reply with quote

People were just trying to help, Stuart.

It’s all good perspective for future readers, too.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2024 3:28 am    Post subject: Re: Full length Westfalia roof rack Reply with quote

shagginwagon83 wrote:
Edit. actually it only looks like those are on the front brackets.

I was impressed that their front brackets appear to rest INSIDE the front luggage rack, which is quite stoutly constructed and capable of holding hundreds of pounds.

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