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Vinnems Samba Member
Joined: December 23, 2008 Posts: 1183 Location: Simi Valley, CA
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 5:37 pm Post subject: Gas filler confusion |
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I was told at airhead parts that the gas filler DOES NOT go into the gas tank. There's supposed to be a gap, and the black rubber hose is what links the gas filler to the gas tank. However, on my car, I have to put the gas filler into the tank for things to fit.
See the pic, the rubber band area on the end of the filler has to go into the gas tank in order for me to get the filler in enough to close the door (I moved the rubber band area further back, but just imagine here). As things are pictured now, the filler sticks out of the gas door, and the little nozzle the big hose goes on isn't even in enough to go on!
So I'm confused after getting conflicting info. This is a 74 Super, anyone know what is right? I don't think my filler neck got longer since it's been out of the car |
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69 Jim Samba Member
Joined: September 27, 2004 Posts: 6264 Location: Chickengeorge's Neighbor
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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Excuse the French, but something is fucked up here. Are you missing #11, a flexhose? Post a picture of the entire assembly.
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AggieDave Samba Member
Joined: October 27, 2008 Posts: 248 Location: Texas
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 6:59 pm Post subject: Re: Gas filler confusion |
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Vinnems wrote: |
I was told at airhead parts that the gas filler DOES NOT go into the gas tank. There's supposed to be a gap, and the black rubber hose is what links the gas filler to the gas tank. However, on my car, I have to put the gas filler into the tank for things to fit.
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Mine sort of fits like that, but I have the flexhose hose over it (slid over both ends) and clamped down. On my car end of the metal filler pipe still slides into the opening in the gas tank, though. |
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Vinnems Samba Member
Joined: December 23, 2008 Posts: 1183 Location: Simi Valley, CA
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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I have the flex hose, but my problem is I'm told the flex hose is supposed to connect the filler with the tank, yet on my car the filler is long enough to go in the gas tank and I don't really need the flex hose except as a vapor seal. |
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justaguy Samba Member
Joined: May 07, 2008 Posts: 457 Location: Cambridge, Ontario
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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Actually, I believe the way it is supposed to work is that you have one rubber band on the tank end and one on the filler (sits up where the other end of the rubber pipe would end). It is not used as a seal where the filler slides into the tank (Yes it does go into the tank). It is not used to seal the two pipes (that was my first thought too), it is used to seal the rubber pipe that joins the two together. One should end up on either end of the rubber pipe approximately where each clamp is. At least that is how I wound up putting mine and that is what my searching showed me IIRC. |
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mnussbau Samba Member
Joined: August 26, 2006 Posts: 4589 Location: Central Maryland
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Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 4:32 am Post subject: |
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A '74 super should look like this.
_________________ Mike
Sold my sedan
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justaguy Samba Member
Joined: May 07, 2008 Posts: 457 Location: Cambridge, Ontario
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Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 6:04 am Post subject: |
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Yes and the rubbers bands should be under the rubber pipe at each clamp. Mine looks the same as the one pictured too |
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mnussbau Samba Member
Joined: August 26, 2006 Posts: 4589 Location: Central Maryland
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Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:04 am Post subject: |
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Exactly, bands under each end of the hose. _________________ Mike
Sold my sedan
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VeedubPastor Samba Member
Joined: September 03, 2009 Posts: 761 Location: Maryland
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Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, the filler tube fits inside the tank. Someone gave you a bum steer. _________________ 1971 Super Beetle - Daily Driver
Solex H30/31 & 034 distributor (yeah, I know)
Stock thermostat & flaps
Stock air cleaner and emissions equipment |
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Olddog52 Samba Member
Joined: December 10, 2007 Posts: 381 Location: Whidbey Island, WA
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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Question here. Is the easiest way to install the new hose to take the tank and the filler tube out of the car, join them while out, and then install it all as one unit and reinstall the rubber grommet on the filler door area? I'm having a hell of a time trying to so it while in the trunk. I do have the tank loose and partially out, but things just don't want to slide together with out massive force. Just looking for a pointer here. _________________ 73 Tin Top Westy ( should have never sold her)
79 Westy Pop Top
73 Super Beetle
VW Trike with 70 engine. |
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Vinnems Samba Member
Joined: December 23, 2008 Posts: 1183 Location: Simi Valley, CA
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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I installed mine by putting the tank in, putting the rubber over the tank's fill hole, and then twisting the fill nozzle into the rubber hose. Had to do alot of twisting and pushing, but it was easy to grip to get working. |
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Olddog52 Samba Member
Joined: December 10, 2007 Posts: 381 Location: Whidbey Island, WA
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the hint. I'm going to give it a go again in the morning. My frustration level got the best of me today so I walked away from it for the evening.
Thanks again. _________________ 73 Tin Top Westy ( should have never sold her)
79 Westy Pop Top
73 Super Beetle
VW Trike with 70 engine. |
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Olddog52 Samba Member
Joined: December 10, 2007 Posts: 381 Location: Whidbey Island, WA
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 9:55 am Post subject: |
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Vinnems, thanks for the sequence tip. Used motor oil instead of WD a s another guy suggested, and worked in the order you gave and I had it done in like 10 mins. Thanks again everyone. _________________ 73 Tin Top Westy ( should have never sold her)
79 Westy Pop Top
73 Super Beetle
VW Trike with 70 engine. |
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