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copescobra Samba Member
Joined: February 14, 2011 Posts: 66 Location: Washington State
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 6:19 pm Post subject: getting more power out of 79 bus |
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I have a 79 rivera Bus that has stock engine. would like to know if there is an easy way to get more power out of it. Perhaps modifications that cost up to $2000 would be great?
I know that Jake builds custom engines but they seem to be out of my price range. I am located in the North part of Washington if that is any help.
thanks for your input. _________________ 1987 Westy Camper
1970 Boss 302
1965 Sunbeam Tiger
2000 Type R Integra
1967 Alfa Duetto
1972 BMW Tii |
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1FUNBUG Samba Member

Joined: June 29, 2004 Posts: 599 Location: Waterville, OH
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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I'm planning a rebuild with Camper Special Heads and valvetrain. I'm sure that when I'm done it will still be about $4000. I can't think of anything "bolt on". It seems that the cam and heads are where it's at. _________________ 1FUNBUG
71 Beetle, 1776, dual Kadrons
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dasdachshund Samba Member

Joined: March 29, 2010 Posts: 728 Location: Vancouver, WA USA
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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1FUNBUG wrote: |
I'm planning a rebuild with Camper Special Heads and valvetrain........ |
I don't think Mr. Raby sells just the heads and valvetrain. Maybe I'm wrong.....
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Jake Raby Samba Member

Joined: August 23, 2003 Posts: 7433 Location: Aircooled Heaven USA
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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Absolutely. We sell both together or separately _________________ Jake Raby
Raby Engine Development
www.rabyenginedevelopment.com
"I've never given anyone Hell, I just told them the truth and they thought it was Hell" |
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dasdachshund Samba Member

Joined: March 29, 2010 Posts: 728 Location: Vancouver, WA USA
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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Jake Raby wrote: |
Absolutely. We sell both together or separately |
I stand corrected by the man himself.
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pb24ss Samba Member

Joined: June 30, 2005 Posts: 1665 Location: sitting around the fire with the bluegrass band - colorado
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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for $2000 you could paint a sweet set of flames on it. it will look like it's going faster than it really is. can't really think of much else within your budget. |
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notchboy Samba Member

Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 22659 Location: Escondido CA
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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Jake Raby wrote: |
Absolutely. We sell both together or separately |
So Mr Raby, what can this guy do at your store for $2000? _________________
t3kg wrote: |
OK, this thread is over. You win. |
Jason "notchboy" Weigel
1964 1500 S
1964 T34 S Convertible
1977 Westfalia Camper pop-top |
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Westfabulous Samba Member

Joined: January 07, 2007 Posts: 4207 Location: The tropic of Canada, dodging the giant flying moose of Surrey!
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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notchboy wrote: |
Jake Raby wrote: |
Absolutely. We sell both together or separately |
So Mr Raby, what can this guy do at your store for $2000? |
Save his $2000 for all the other repairs that the new bus is gong to need......don't they all? _________________ *****************
"I will gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today." |
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notchboy Samba Member

Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 22659 Location: Escondido CA
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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Westfabulous wrote: |
notchboy wrote: |
Jake Raby wrote: |
Absolutely. We sell both together or separately |
So Mr Raby, what can this guy do at your store for $2000? |
Save his $2000 for all the other repairs that the new bus is gong to need......don't they all? |
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t3kg wrote: |
OK, this thread is over. You win. |
Jason "notchboy" Weigel
1964 1500 S
1964 T34 S Convertible
1977 Westfalia Camper pop-top |
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grandpa pete Samba Member

Joined: July 06, 2008 Posts: 6426 Location: St. Petersburg, FL
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Desertbusman Samba Member

Joined: June 03, 2005 Posts: 14655 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:18 am Post subject: |
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Common problem many new bus owners have. They want to lower it, raise it, do fancy wheels, and frequently want to make it faster. Maybe it's just plain the wrong vehicle. A bus is a bus, and a wonderful bus they are. Spend the coin, the worry, and the work where it's beter used to get what it already is in real good shape. Then enjoy it and discover how great it is.
New owners that don't yet know how great a bus is want it to be something different. That frequently is a real bad mistake. Wait a couple years, get to know and appreciate it and then rethink the situation. _________________ 71 Superbug
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bigbore Samba Member

Joined: December 19, 2003 Posts: 3297 Location: Wasilla Alaska
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:04 am Post subject: |
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I find 2L to do just fine. Most of the time I just say go find a vanagon or euro van if you want to go faster. _________________ where its cold and snowy |
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drober23 Samba Member

Joined: April 01, 2009 Posts: 787 Location: Detroit, MI
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:07 am Post subject: |
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DBM is right on with this.
A well tuned '79 should be easily capable of going 70 mph on the highway (owner's manual lists top cruising speed at 74 mph). It will also have enough low end torque to carry nearly a ton of cargo.
Acceleration in a bus is not going to compare to other vehicles. Accept it. It's part of the charm. _________________ DJ
'75 Westfalia, '79 Deluxe, and some others...
(more busses than sense)
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busdaddy Samba Member

Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 52746 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:15 am Post subject: |
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A comprehensive tune up and a schedule that allows you time to enjoy the scenery are the best you'll do on $2K. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
Please don't PM technical questions, ask your problem in public so everyone can play along. If you think it's too stupid post it here
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amosdoodle Samba Member
Joined: December 04, 2010 Posts: 34 Location: Raleigh NC
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:13 am Post subject: |
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I cant seem to think why no one has mentioned Exhaust upgrades I know there are improvements for power they might come with compromises... such as louder. |
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SGKent  Samba Member

Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 42439 Location: at the beach
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:34 am Post subject: |
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amosdoodle wrote: |
I cant seem to think why no one has mentioned Exhaust upgrades I know there are improvements for power they might come with compromises... such as louder. |
Ladies and Gentlemen - it is annual fantasy time. Santa will be here in just a few days. If you leave $2000 on a plate with some milk and cookies, he will make your bus go just like a big Hummer. Yes, you too can make a DC3 fly like a 767 with one of Santa's kits. _________________ "Most people don't know what they're doing, and a lot of them are really good at it." - George Carlin
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Jake Raby Samba Member

Joined: August 23, 2003 Posts: 7433 Location: Aircooled Heaven USA
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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notchboy wrote: |
Jake Raby wrote: |
Absolutely. We sell both together or separately |
So Mr Raby, what can this guy do at your store for $2000? |
Not much... And I'd suggest that nothing be done if everything can't be done for any reason.. Doing so just creates compromise through misconfiguration.
All the way or not all all is my philosophy. _________________ Jake Raby
Raby Engine Development
www.rabyenginedevelopment.com
"I've never given anyone Hell, I just told them the truth and they thought it was Hell" |
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Kirk Samba Member

Joined: December 05, 2003 Posts: 5492 Location: North Texas
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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$2000? I'd buy some load rated tires, a new vacuum and fuel hose kit, some Konis and pay Colin for a days worth of tuning. Betcha it makes a world of difference. _________________ MAKE FORUMS GREAT AGAIN
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Inane Cathode Samba Member

Joined: September 11, 2009 Posts: 556 Location: Westminster, CO
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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Jake Raby wrote: |
notchboy wrote: |
Jake Raby wrote: |
Absolutely. We sell both together or separately |
So Mr Raby, what can this guy do at your store for $2000? |
Not much... And I'd suggest that nothing be done if everything can't be done for any reason.. Doing so just creates compromise through misconfiguration.
All the way or not all all is my philosophy. |
Pretty much.
I'd just save up, or spend the 2g on all the stuff it already needs. Theres no way the bus needs /nothing/. It always needs something. |
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Jake Raby Samba Member

Joined: August 23, 2003 Posts: 7433 Location: Aircooled Heaven USA
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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I agree on doing all the things that bring the Bus up to par reliability and safety wise before getting more power. _________________ Jake Raby
Raby Engine Development
www.rabyenginedevelopment.com
"I've never given anyone Hell, I just told them the truth and they thought it was Hell" |
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