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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2024 9:00 am    Post subject: 1776 engine with single 34pict3 carb Reply with quote

I have a newly built 1776 motor and also a rebuilt German made 34pict3 and SVDa distributor. I am now trying to dial everything in and I noticed a lot of information about carb needs. Specifically, despite many of you that would prefer dual carbs, I have been under the impression a single carb will work fine. My motor has stock Rods, Cam, Lifters, rockers and flywheel, a 69mm counterweight Crank, 37.5 x 32mm valves and 90.5mm pistons. My builder recommended I use a 1.4 main jet, which I have installed. So, bottom line, there are a lot of variables to sort out to get the engine fine tuned, but am I correct in that this set-up will work just fine without any other 'engineering' problems to consider now that it is up to a 1776?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2024 9:39 am    Post subject: Re: 1776 engine with single 34pict3 carb Reply with quote

To run optimally you need to have HEAT going to the intake runner.
Without this it will run but have driveability issues.
No vacuum leaks as well.

I was quite happy with my 1776cc/PICT34-3 set up until the carburetor rebuild revealed bad throttle shafts.
I took it to a muffler shop to have a scavenger pipe installed.
Easy peasy.

Since about 2017 I put an EGAS38mm & has been great since.

Good luck ... stay safe

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2024 12:27 pm    Post subject: Re: 1776 engine with single 34pict3 carb Reply with quote

Back about 1979 or 1980, my friend ran an 1835cc DP engine using stock 34PICT-3 carburetor and stock distributor, it ran fine.

Myself, I use a single carburetor on my 1835cc DP engine, but it's a Weber 40DCNF from 1976, and it's never been off its manifold. I use a vintage German 009.

Both those 1835cc engines use a stock camshaft.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2024 1:00 pm    Post subject: Re: 1776 engine with single 34pict3 carb Reply with quote

Thank you both for the feedback. I wanted to make sure I was heading down a reasonable path before I got too far.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2024 6:39 pm    Post subject: Re: 1776 engine with single 34pict3 carb Reply with quote

I'm running a 1700 on a 34 PICT 3 with SVDA. I've been slowly dialing in the jetting. I'm running a 135 main and a 57 idle jet right now, and it's running pretty strong, so I'm close. Might still go back down to a 55 idle, and see if I get any better performance. With your 1776, a 140 main and maybe a 57 or 60 idle would be a good place to start dialing it in IMO.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2024 2:12 pm    Post subject: Re: 1776 engine with single 34pict3 carb Reply with quote

hi, I have a 1776, mild cam, 009 dist. it gets 27 degrees advance, at ten before tdc, has a dog house cooler and a two level remote cooler, and with a 34 pict it overheated almost to 275, at 60 mph, swithched to 40 kadrons , and it still got to 225, all this in a 67 bus with reduction boxes, thinking of trying a couple of empi 40mms, and trying to get more than 10 miles per gallon, am I dreamimg?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2024 7:20 pm    Post subject: Re: 1776 engine with single 34pict3 carb Reply with quote

My bay bus had a stock engine other than 90.5 pistons that made it a 1776. I ran a rebuilt German Solex 34-3 carb and an original restored DVDA distributor. I remember I put a bigger main jet in it and possible a slightly bigger idle jet.

The engine ran great and no overheating issues, even in hot Arizona.

[email protected] bores out the throats of the 34-3 carbs to make them even bigger. I know a couple of folks who had that done with like 1900cc engines. They ran great.

The advantage of modifying the 34-3 carbs is you still have the correct ported vacuum to work the vacuum canisters on the SVDA or DVDA. Most dual carbs do not put out the right amount of ported vacuum w/out modification.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2024 4:30 am    Post subject: Re: 1776 engine with single 34pict3 carb Reply with quote

Bill, actually I am using a restored SVDA distributor that you did for me, combined with a restored 34pict3 that Tim did for me. I have a 1.4 main jet and she runs great at highway speeds but I have some idle issues when warm like so many do. My next step is to increase the idle jet a size. There is an abundance of information available to tune the carb but I am assuming most of these instructions would only apply to stock builds when the instructions get down to specifics such as detailed as a 1/4 turn. For a newbie like me it has been more of a challenge to dial things after I made a few changes (such as the 1776). Anyway, I am getting close and I appreciate the knowledge so many have here.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2024 6:01 pm    Post subject: Re: 1776 engine with single 34pict3 carb Reply with quote

Superbj wrote:
Bill, actually I am using a restored SVDA distributor that you did for me, combined with a restored 34pict3 that Tim did for me. I have a 1.4 main jet and she runs great at highway speeds but I have some idle issues when warm like so many do. My next step is to increase the idle jet a size. There is an abundance of information available to tune the carb but I am assuming most of these instructions would only apply to stock builds when the instructions get down to specifics such as detailed as a 1/4 turn. For a newbie like me it has been more of a challenge to dial things after I made a few changes (such as the 1776). Anyway, I am getting close and I appreciate the knowledge so many have here.


What is the flange number on your 34 PICT 3? You have to make sure you have the correct size hole in your throttle plate to go along with your SVDA, otherwise you'll have idle issues. I just went through this again when I switched over to another 34 PICT 3 carb.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2024 7:21 pm    Post subject: Re: 1776 engine with single 34pict3 carb Reply with quote

beetlenut wrote:
Superbj wrote:
Bill, actually I am using a restored SVDA distributor that you did for me, combined with a restored 34pict3 that Tim did for me. I have a 1.4 main jet and she runs great at highway speeds but I have some idle issues when warm like so many do. My next step is to increase the idle jet a size. There is an abundance of information available to tune the carb but I am assuming most of these instructions would only apply to stock builds when the instructions get down to specifics such as detailed as a 1/4 turn. For a newbie like me it has been more of a challenge to dial things after I made a few changes (such as the 1776). Anyway, I am getting close and I appreciate the knowledge so many have here.


What is the flange number on your 34 PICT 3? You have to make sure you have the correct size hole in your throttle plate to go along with your SVDA, otherwise you'll have idle issues. I just went through this again when I switched over to another 34 PICT 3 carb.


Great question about the size of the hole on the throttle plate. Typically Tim will ask his carb customer what distributor they are going to run. He'll then set up the 34-3 carb to either work with the SVDA or DVDA.
To your point, you will absolutely have idle, tuning issues running a DVDA 34-3 carb with an SVDA.

OP, I'd go up one size on the idle jet. The other thing you can do is get the engine to idle. Then crack the idle jet. If the idle improves, you need a bigger jet.
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