Wiper Switch Identification - Part #: 111955517C

wolfywho · Samba Member Joined: April 17, 2009 Posts: 502

Hey guys,

I purchased this NOS switch to replace my broken switch. It is a 111955517C windshield wiper switch. It has a push button for the washer fluid, as expected. It is a 1 speed switch, as expected. It's a "twist" on/off, instead of a "push/pull" on/off switch. Trying to ID what it's from. Bought it from a guy in France to replace my '66 Beetle wiper switch, but noticed that it's not a push/pull switch when I received it. My old one is a push/pull on/off switch, and the '66 Beetle manual states that it's push/pull as well. Maybe they were twist style in the European market?

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glutamodo · Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:30 pm Post subject:

Oh, there's a 1967 1300A-1300-1500 European Owner's manual in the Technicial archives... it does say to turn the switch.

I think that at some point SWF started making all switches in the twist style... if it's got the square body it's twist.

-Andy

wolfywho · Samba Member Joined: April 17, 2009 Posts: 502

Thanks Andy. I saw that too, but I thought they went to a 2 speed wiper motor/switch in '67. Figured it wasn't relevant to this particular switch. Were there 1 speed wiper motors in '67?
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glutamodo · Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:45 pm Post subject:

Yeah, those particular Euro models were all 6V, and single speed wiper motors. The USA got 12V, and the two speed wipers for Bugs, a year ahead of the rest of the world.

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KombiMarc · Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:19 pm Post subject:

Ok dumb question, I bought this same switch to put in my 65. Not realizing it's wrong switch. I have 12v system if this is 6v switch can't be good to use? Any sparkles out there that can help?
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glutamodo · Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 6:49 am Post subject:

Switches are fine for 6V and 12V. However they are different from single speed vs two speed wiper motors. What do you have? You can make different combinations work though:

KombiMarc · Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 8:09 am Post subject:

Awesome info!! Although the switch I have only has 4 tabs on it. 54 54d, 31 and 31b. My wiper motor must be a 6 volt cuz it only has the tabs. I'll post some pics. Thanks in advance!!
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KombiMarc · Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 2:28 pm Post subject:

Ok here is the switch I have

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And here is the electrical side of the wiper

Three codes match to wiper motor codes, except 31. Is that power to switch?
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glutamodo · Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 5:36 pm Post subject:

31 is a ground. The switch should ground just by being bolted to the dashboard. The 31 tab there is actaully a tab to connect other items needing a ground point up to. The wiper itself is grounded via the brass tab on the mounting bolt at grommet where it bolts to the cowling.

as in the diagrams I posted above, power in is 54.

KombiMarc · Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 6:06 pm Post subject:

Oh, so power to 54, from same tab power to motor and then just match up 54d and 31b to motor?
Will give it a try, thanks!
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coxbzh

hello

Excuse me but on the first assembly what we connect on terminal 31?

this is the montage I'm trying to do

Best regards

David

glutamodo

I already said it above, that the switch itself grounds just by being bolted to the metal dashboard, and the switch terminal 31 is more of a ground tap than anything else. I guess that if you were trying to test a switch and wiper motor off the car, then you would want to hook 31 to ground.

In practice, terminal 31 on the wiper switch was a ground source for things like the ground connection for the high/low beam switch on the 1967 turn signal arm.
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wolfywho · Samba Member Joined: April 17, 2009 Posts: 502

I sold my '66 long ago, but seeing this thread revived is making me want to get another aircooled. Hi everyone!

-Wolfy
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coxbzh

Ok thanks!

Big Bill

Does anyone have a photo of the Mounting/Grounding tab that glutamodo talks about. Mine has the threaded tab on the cowl but I cant see where it attaches to the wiper motor itself it may not even be the correct wiper motor. The brass tab is also not present. Thanks

glutamodo

The 31 ground tab on the switch location depends on who made the switch, what part number it was and when it was made. I don't know when it was added to the single speed switch, it might have been on non-USA 1967 6V models, as that's when you first saw it on the USA 12V 1967 switches. The 1967 switch is what I mostly am talking about, in finding ways to make it work on the 1966/older applications.

The switch itself, is bare metal where it meets the dashboard, and that is how it gets its ground.
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Big Bill

Thanks Andy T I am actually talking about the wiper motor itself. It looks like there is a threaded ear attached to the cowl that is a support for the wiper motor itself?? Mine may have the wrong motor I am not sure first 67 I have owned, alot to learn about this year model. Thanks Bill * EDIT* I will post a photo of the area I am confused about.

glutamodo

Oh, gotchya, the wiper motor. Well, the wiper rack is isolated from ground by the rubber grommets in various places, so there is a brass tab that flips over the rubber grommet of the cowling mount.

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Beautiful just what I was looking for ...Thank You.


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