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Bala Samba Member
Joined: December 04, 2003 Posts: 2613 Location: Austin, TX
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:21 pm Post subject: Rear westy table refurbish |
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Did a quick refurb on my rear table. Turned out to be easer than i was thinking.
Thought this might help for anyone who wants to give it a try.
How it looked before with peeling laminate and wrinkled trim:
I used "DAP" brand Weldwood contact cement. A nice coat and let it dry for 20 minutes or so.
It didn't seem like it was really needed, but I put some bricks on top to give a little added pressure while it bonded.
The corners seemed to take a lot of pressure to stay in contact, so I used some clamps to insure a tight bond.
I didn't get any pictures of the trim boiling/installation process, but it's pretty simple. Just boil a good amount of water in a large pot, and drop the trim in. It only takes about 1 minute for the trim to become super soft. I had a towel handy and dried it as I lifted it out of the water. You have to work fast. It cools and hardens very quickly. I used a hammer to gently tap the trim into place. It was not possible to get it fully settled into place by hand.
After the trim was installed:
I used "Marvel" air tool oil and put it on like automotive wax. A generous amount, then buffed it out to remove the excess. Not sure how long it will last, but it looks nice for now.
And, all finished:
_________________ 1976 Westy
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Poptopcamper Samba Member
Joined: June 23, 2012 Posts: 490 Location: Sheridan, Wyoming
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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:19 am Post subject: |
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Nice job. The trim on the cabinets on my riviera have pulled loose and seem to have shrunk. I wonder if the boiling water trick would work with them? It's worth a try. Thanks for sharing. _________________ If you only have one tool in your tool box, and it's a hammer, pretty soon, everything looks like it needs to be whacked!
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Westfabulous Samba Member
Joined: January 07, 2007 Posts: 4207 Location: The tropic of Canada, dodging the giant flying moose of Surrey!
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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:00 am Post subject: |
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Nice work; looks great. Good tip on boiling the trim. _________________ *****************
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white74westy Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:42 am Post subject: |
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Great work! Thanks for sharing. |
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Kirk Samba Member
Joined: December 05, 2003 Posts: 5487 Location: North Texas
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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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I would have never thought about boiling it. Well done! _________________ MAKE FORUMS GREAT AGAIN
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Bala Samba Member
Joined: December 04, 2003 Posts: 2613 Location: Austin, TX
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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:31 am Post subject: |
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Thanks guys!
The boiling trick wasn't my idea. I've heard it from several people, but never tried it until now. It works very well. _________________ 1976 Westy
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sallittjob Samba Member
Joined: September 16, 2010 Posts: 340 Location: North NJ
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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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Looks great.
Did you reuse the existing trim or buy new trim and if so, where did you get it from? _________________ 57' Beetle Deluxe
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71' Super Beetle
1968cc DP
73' 412 Sedan
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bugger101 Samba Member
Joined: September 04, 2010 Posts: 1559 Location: orlando
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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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sallittjob wrote: |
Looks great.
Did you reuse the existing trim or buy new trim and if so, where did you get it from? |
did you read the original post?
Bala wrote: |
I didn't get any pictures of the trim boiling/installation process, but it's pretty simple. Just boil a good amount of water in a large pot, and drop the trim in. It only takes about 1 minute for the trim to become super soft. I had a towel handy and dried it as I lifted it out of the water. You have to work fast. It cools and hardens very quickly. I used a hammer to gently tap the trim into place. It was not possible to get it fully settled into place by hand. |
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Bala Samba Member
Joined: December 04, 2003 Posts: 2613 Location: Austin, TX
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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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Yep, reused the old stuff.
It's kind of funny, it's about like boiling spaghetti. The trim is hard and almost brittle feeling, then drop it in the water and in about 10 seconds or less it gets super soft and pliable. I let it soak a little longer and moving quickly installed it. Reduce, recycle, reuse. _________________ 1976 Westy
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Kirk Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:56 am Post subject: |
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That was my question. More info on the boiling. You got the water hot, or a rolling boil. Then how long in the water?
Inquiring minds want to know. _________________ MAKE FORUMS GREAT AGAIN
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Bala Samba Member
Joined: December 04, 2003 Posts: 2613 Location: Austin, TX
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:28 am Post subject: |
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Kirk wrote: |
That was my question. More info on the boiling. You got the water hot, or a rolling boil. Then how long in the water?
Inquiring minds want to know. |
Yes, rolling boil. Then I rolled the trim up and dropped it in. Maybe 40 seconds and it's good to go (don't walk away, it's that fast!). I used some tongs to move it around so it didn't burn on the bottom of the pot. Once it was ready I grabbed an end with the tongs and dried it with an old towel as I removed it from the pot (be careful to not burn yourself). The table was in my kitchen so I was able to go straight to it and start installing the trim. You only have a few minutes before it starts getting hard again. I installed it around the entire table, then went back with a hammer and tapped it into place. If you run your fingers along it you can feel where it hasn't fully seated. Once in place I don't think it'll go anywhere anytime soon. _________________ 1976 Westy
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vw76westy Samba Member
Joined: May 06, 2007 Posts: 1584 Location: so cal
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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if anyone wants brand new black t-mold
exactly the same as original
i have plenty and will offer to you guys for
75cents foot
just pm me
gowesty,busdepot and other places offer it for $1.25 - $1.50 a foot
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sallittjob Samba Member
Joined: September 16, 2010 Posts: 340 Location: North NJ
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 7:15 am Post subject: |
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bugger101 wrote: |
sallittjob wrote: |
Looks great.
Did you reuse the existing trim or buy new trim and if so, where did you get it from? |
did you read the original post?
Bala wrote: |
I didn't get any pictures of the trim boiling/installation process, but it's pretty simple. Just boil a good amount of water in a large pot, and drop the trim in. It only takes about 1 minute for the trim to become super soft. I had a towel handy and dried it as I lifted it out of the water. You have to work fast. It cools and hardens very quickly. I used a hammer to gently tap the trim into place. It was not possible to get it fully settled into place by hand. |
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Yes I did read it. The better question is did you read the post?
I don't see him mention reusing the old trim anywhere in that paragraph without reading between the lines.
Thanks for the clarification Bala. _________________ 57' Beetle Deluxe
1192cc SP
71' Super Beetle
1968cc DP
73' 412 Sedan
1679cc FI
75' Westy
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Mfitz79california Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2012 Posts: 5 Location: Virginia
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:03 am Post subject: demintions |
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I am trying to rebuild the rear table for my 79 delux could you give me the dimentions of you rear table. Mine is missing and i cant find a link on a full rebulid. [/i] |
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EZ Gruv King of Plaid
Joined: December 10, 2002 Posts: 8543 Location: Las Vegas
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:12 am Post subject: Re: demintions |
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Mfitz79california wrote: |
I am trying to rebuild the rear table for my 79 delux could you give me the dimentions of you rear table. Mine is missing and i cant find a link on a full rebulid. [/i] |
_________________ Eric
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fleff Samba Member
Joined: November 25, 2007 Posts: 119 Location: Texas
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:13 am Post subject: |
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I havent worked with this trim, and i like the boiling water trick, but to gain some time, i might use a heat gun while plying it in. _________________ '76 VW Campmobile
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EZ Gruv King of Plaid
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:41 am Post subject: |
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fleff wrote: |
I havent worked with this trim, and i like the boiling water trick, but to gain some time, i might use a heat gun while plying it in. |
Heat gun works great, just don't melt it. _________________ Eric
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