Advise on wiper switch... which switch

scottyellow67

Just finishing up wiring on my 67 12v and have been advised by auto electric shop that the wiper switch(2 speed) is no good. No problem, I'll get a new one....

JBugs #141-955-517 $64.95
Airhead #141-955-517 OE $116.08
Mid America NO LISTING IN CATALOG

Ive ordered many times from JBugs..always happy with service. I want to make sure I get a good replacement.
Ive also been burned by cheap ass parts (got front turn signal assemblies from Airhead...absolute crap...dont fit contour of front fender!!) I dont want to buy this switch twice.

Have any of you used the part from JBugs? Any suggestions on this??

Also, PO replaced the wiper shafts with new and re assembled. Im not 100% sure it is correct. Does anyone have any pix of the way the arms should be?? Once I get the motor out from under the dash I can post up pics if needed. Pics of yours would be great.

Thanks

scottyellow67

[quote="scottyellow67"]
Ive also been burned by cheap ass parts (got front turn signal assemblies from Airhead...absolute crap...dont fit contour of front fender!!) I dont want to buy this switch twice.

Just to clarify.. I have used Airhead several times as well and I'm very happy with their service too. My point was that there are obviously good parts out there as well as not so good parts (from everybody, Im sure). Airhead is good, I like their service. They are a good company

I just want to make sure that I don't purchase the wrong quality item.

Ok, I hope thats clear and no one's pissed!! Embarassed

glutamodo · Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:22 pm Post subject:

I just looked at what Wolfsburg West wanted for this switch.

http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=141955517

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Somehow I'm doubtful of their listing. they say they want 29 dollars for a German switch. Question

I paid over 50 for this German SWF 141955517 switch - 20 years ago. - and I'm guessing when you see NOS or OEM ones for over $100 now, it's one of those.

scottyellow67 · Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:24 pm Post subject:

What do you guys think?? WW is a highly regarded company from what Ive read on here!! This is where things get confusing? The low price scares me...the higher price makes me hesitate!! Decisions!!!

glutamodo · Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:29 pm Post subject:

I think I'd give WW a call and ask about the part on Monday. I've noticed that their website listings sometimes are outdated and reflect items that have subsequently changed manufacturers.

BWD · Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:12 pm Post subject:

I just got one of the WW switches last week, I haven't installed it yet. I don't see anything showing country of origin. All of the terminals are marked and it's stamped KLF on the front. I'll update this after I install it!
_________________
BWD
JHC
member #2850
1966 Beetle
_____________________________

scottyellow67 · Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:17 pm Post subject:

I will call them tomorrow.
Here is my motor and arms. Does it look like the arms are installed correctly?

Have any of you ever used a 12v cordless drill battery to test the motor outside of the car?

scottyellow67 · Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:02 pm Post subject:

[quote="glutamodo"]I just looked at what Wolfsburg West wanted for this switch.

Somehow I'm doubtful of their listing. they say they want 29 dollars for a German switch. Question

I just ordered one from WW. Shipping today. $29.00 is correct. They are german. They just started reproducing them. They said they had sold many with no issues so far!.

Thanks for your help.

Anybody see the pic I attached? Does it look like I have it right??

BWD · Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:39 pm Post subject:

VW Habit · Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:52 pm Post subject:

You can test the whole enchilada with a car battery charger.
Thats what I did and it worked fine.
Make sure the wiring is per the stock diagram...

BWD · Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:24 pm Post subject:

1964SunRoof

I have been looking into buying a new wiper switch ever since I bought my current bug, but the only problem with my current one is the valve to spray the windshield washer fluid onto the windshield, which I have never really needed to do anyway so this is a REAL low priority item. Anyway, back in 2007 I wrote an e-mail to Wolfsburg West asking about their new switch. Here is a copy of relevant portions:

glutamodo · Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:37 am Post subject:

I choose to also jumper 53 and 53b together, that way both of the "on" positions turn the wiper motor on. However if you just use the one, the other position will allow you to "park" the wipers anywhere you want, if that appeals to you.

That 50 dollar switch shown in that 20 year old photograph I posted above is in my 62 Bug and used with a 1 speed motor. Initially with one speed, a 6V motor that already had a resistor to drop the voltage. Later, I added another resistor to, in effect, make it two speeds. Back in 2007 I drew and posted this diagram to theSamba:

1964SunRoof · Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 11:08 am Post subject:

Hmmm, that's very interesting. I was wondering if there was a way to make my 1-speed motor into 2-speed to take advantage of that 2-speed switch. Just 2 questions. First, very nice schematics! But what are values of the 2 resistors? Also, you have +12V (Fuse 1) on the lowest diagram (the one I would use). Does this mean you used this on your '62 Bug that was converted to run on 12V? Which means I guess I would need different values (half?) for the resistors you used. Or perhaps its just not doable with 6 volts.

scottyellow67 · Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:51 pm Post subject:

Got my switch and installed it last week. Waited a few days before reconnecting the battery because I was finishing my new carpet install.
Anyway, I finished the carpet, reconnected the battery....no joy.
My car is a 12v 1967. I attached all the wires from my new harness from the wiper motor to the new switch matching all the terminal numbers.
Everything else in the car works perfectly?.
Any ideas before I assume the switch is no good?

glutamodo · Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:55 pm Post subject:

glutamodo · Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:57 pm Post subject:

scottyellow67 · Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 3:06 pm Post subject:

Also, look at this thread where I tested the actual 1967-style switch that is in my Baja bug:

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=452977

-Andy[/quote]

Okay, I checked the fuse...not blown (tried a new one too)
Checked the ground at the bar where the motor bolts to the body. Filed both sides bare to ensure ground. Still no joy.

I drew a diagram of how its currently wired...

Here is a pic of the motor...cant see much...

I have a multi meter that my dad gave me a cpl years ago. I admit, I dont know how to set it. Here is a pic of it. Does anyone know what setting I should have it on? Are the red and black sensors in the right place? When I check each terminal as described in Andy's link, which should I put on a ground and which on the terminal while testing?

Please dont be to rough on me... I you had questions for me in MY field of expertise, I would be gentle with you. Very Happy

glutamodo · Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 7:05 pm Post subject:

On the meter, move the black probe to COM. Leave the red probe where it is. Turn the meter to the 200Ω position. Touch the leads together, you should get around .01-.05Ω, that is the resistance in the meter and the probles, equivalent to a direct connection (continuity). Then apply the probes as listed in my other thread - coninutity will be as in the initial lead test or just above it in resistance. Open will be no reading at all.

-Andy

andk5591 · Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:15 am Post subject:

Does your motor work? Grab a piece of wire from a hot leg on the fuse box and conenct it to 53 - should run. If not I would suspect the motor or your ground connection. Andy, please double check this.

Also, bench testing would have been a smarter thing to do. And how are things in Indiana? Been out that way a couple times over the last couple months.
_________________
D-Dubya Manx clone 1914. Ex wifes car.
Rosie 65 bug - My mostly stock daily driver.
Woodie 69 VW woodie (Hot VWs 7/12).
"John's car" 64 VW woodie - The first ever
Maxine 61 Cal-look bug - Ex-wifes car.
66 bug project - Real patina & Suby conversion
There's more, but not keeping them...


Hello! Log in or Register \| Help \| Donate \| Buy Shirts	See all banner ads \| Advertise on TheSamba.com

	Forum Index -> Beetle - 1958-1967	All times are Mountain Standard Time/Pacific Daylight Savings Time Page: 1, 2 Next
Page 1 of 2