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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 2:53 am    Post subject: Samba / 23-Window Deluxe Radios Reply with quote

Does anyone have any pics of original radios fitted in sambas.
From what I gather the most usual radio fitted in a split beetle was the telefunken IA50 lightning bolt. But from the limited number of vitage pics I've seen that show a radio in a samba it seems the IA52 (pictured below) was the more usual radio for the barndoor?
I guess because it was the newer model and the samba was supposed to be the latest and greatest of all at it's time?
Would love see pictures to see what was used more and with latter BD sambas.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a good link that shows the breakdown of the years:

http://gutefahrt.com/radio/telefunken.html

I dont know the year of that pic in the above post, but i am guessing that it is a 51-52? Early 53 might have had the ID-52, but I am GUESSING that most 53-55 BD sambas came with the ID53 or ID54 cut into a blockoff plate. Most restored barndoors have an owner installed earlier one because they are avaialble and have a cooler look. I have an ID-52 installed in mine, and recently got an IA50. Debating whether to install it, as its way too early for the bus. The factory blockoff pates with the VW emblem are cooler than any radio in my opinion, as they are BD deluxe only, and rarer than any radio. If I didnt already have an antennae on the front of my bus, I would have the original blockoff plate back in the dash.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it´s a 1951 - 24A Model (not Samba)...but with full dash (optional item) and a nice radio.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow!!
That's quite a collection.
What's the radio top right and forth down far left. Very IA52 like but no push buttons. Never seen that before Shocked looks like one has a telefunken badge.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Columbian style
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Telefunken IA52
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Although lots of Barndoor Deluxe period pics show an aerial fitted to the front (usually down the middle), period shots of Barndoor Deluxe dashes seem extremely rare

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Another IA52?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What's the radio top right and forth down far left. Very IA52 like but no push buttons. Never seen that before Shocked looks like one has a telefunken badge


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http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=527967

even the radio bible page that Drew linked to doesn't identify it
http://gutefahrt.com/radio/telefunken.html
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

another gratuitous split-era radio hoard shot
think this is BBT Bob's collection?
which would you choose?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...her is a pic from Grundmann museum..... Shocked

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Telefunken IA52
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Could that be the same bus as the one from the brochure?
'51. Steering column looks red? 2 indicator knobs. Cigarette Lighter or Small silver button:? next to start button.
Also note the non-barndoor sunvisor. Another 51 feature?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, i think there is a decent chance it is the 51/52 brochure deluxe
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/lit/51germanbuses.php
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/lit/literature52brochure.php

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Good spot on the 3-stud 'Beetle' visor
What would the second dash (semaphore) switch be for?
Headlining finishes higher up the A-post compared to later Deluxes

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Also a weird cab door window lower edge treatment? Appears cloaked

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

also forward opening vent window! very early buses only? wonder why this design was dropped? cab ventilation is an issue on the pre-52 buses
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another picture also showing the lower edge cloaking

normal rearward opening vent window. hinge sits further back
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:09 pm    Post subject: radio... Reply with quote

the 1951 type24S, 15-window, had no radio when I bought it back '94... so I fitted a home-build radio that had FM Wink .... but in january '95, I visited the old owner in the ex-DDR, and he still had a lot of stuff from the 15, including it's OG radio, a PHILIPS... it should still be in it, I sold it with the radio... These Philips radio's are mounted UNDER the dash, and the PLATE in the dash was in metal and was missing the grill... it had 4 holes to put the grill in it... see this picture:

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...in case anyone would like a Philips like this, I think I have 2 more left, but not the plate that goes in the dash....

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="RockStock"]also forward opening vent window! very early buses only? wonder why this design was dropped? cab ventilation is an issue on the pre-52 buses
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Nice OG pic of the suicide quarterlights Chris. Been after a decent OG pic for years.
Always assumed the quarterlight would have had to have the overlapping lip missing for the hinge to function correctly. It's clear from the pics no lip has been put on the front (the now opening edge). But can never get a good pic of the hinge section from the outside.
The lip is present on the closing edge of all non-suicide piano-hinge quarters I've seen.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lowdown Dirty Rat wrote:
RockStock wrote:
Telefunken IA52
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Could that be the same bus as the one from the brochure?
'51. Steering column looks red? 2 indicator knobs. Cigarette Lighter or Small silver button:? next to start button.
Also note the non-barndoor sunvisor. Another 51 feature?


I am not sure but I think that you are right. The building in front of the bus looks like Wolfsburg factory to me.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RockStock wrote:
also forward opening vent window! very early buses only? wonder why this design was dropped?


probably leaking, even when properly closed. at cruising Speed there's quite some air pressure on the a pillar. also there was no chance for quarter Ventilation in wet conditions.
my Kohlruss had some kind of suicide sliding Windows on the side Panels and they had to fabricate Special wind deflectors on all sliding Windows to get rid of the obviously leaking design too.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:02 am    Post subject: link Reply with quote

...I posted a video link yesterday in the "barndoor videos" topic... if you look at that link from 04.54 on, you'll see an early Barndoor in action with these windows opened... of course, that was in Africa so not too much leaking Gunter Laughing ...it seems this BD also sufferd a lot, but not from rain...


here the link: http://vimeo.com/56278834


...in case you don't know the Bus, it's the one from the 1951 BOOK about an AFRICA trip by D'Ieteren (think the bus is a 1950...) more pictures of it in my own gallery, the last 2 pages, so the oldest I posted...



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