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MMW Samba Member
Joined: April 30, 2012 Posts: 846 Location: northern NJ
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:31 pm Post subject: Fire extinguisher |
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I need to get one & was wondering what kind/size do you have & where/how did you mount it in your 356?
After searching different threads it seems that Halotron is the way to go. 2.5 or 5 pound? _________________ Mic
1959 356 coupe
Missing the original engine 72488
Update - third pc. found!
Now just need the case halves.
1965 fenderless beetle |
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MoPor Samba Member
Joined: December 03, 2010 Posts: 292 Location: Canada
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Glenn  Mr. 010

Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 79442 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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Halotron 2.5lb is all you need.
Don't open the lid, instead spray it through the vents. _________________ Glenn
74 Beetle Specs | 74 Beetle Restoration | 2180cc Engine
"You may not get what you pay for, but you always pay for what you get"
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66brm Samba Member

Joined: January 25, 2010 Posts: 3676 Location: Perth Western Australia
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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Glenn wrote: |
Don't open the lid, instead spray it through the vents. |
This is the best piece of advice I've heard for a while, opening the decklid will allow more oxygen into the fire, spray through the vents _________________ Aust. RHD 66 Type 1
Aust. RHD 57 Type 1 Oval
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malibubill Samba Member

Joined: May 03, 2012 Posts: 153 Location: Stylish Beach House in Baja Oxnard
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 8:33 am Post subject: |
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If the extinguisher is not secured in some fashion there is a risk (slight?) of it becoming airborne and thus a missile in the event of a crash. There were some threads on the Registry forum about means of installing an extinguisher along with opinions on the best location quite some time ago - searchable if you're interested.
I fashioned a rather crude method of securing it to the steering column using the Halotron "quick release" mounting that is in the photo in this thread and a couple of hose clamps protected with some old fat tire bicycle tubes. It doesn't rattle, cannot be hit by my knees or legs and can be dropped from its holder into the hands of the driver instantly in the event I need it. I think that there were photos of "more artful" installations on the other forum. There would HAVE to be more elegant solutions than mine. _________________ Bill Sampson
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Barry Brisco Samba Member

Joined: November 12, 2010 Posts: 119 Location: San Mateo, California
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 10:20 am Post subject: |
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I have a small Halotron extinguisher from Aircraft Spruce, secured similar to what Bill describes. Secure and easy to access quickly.
Don't buy a dry powder extinguisher for your car: if you ever have to use it the mess it will make is terrible, I am told. _________________ Barry Brisco
1959 356A coupe #105553
1959 356A Convertible D #86439 (sold)
1964 356C coupe #216966 (sold)
2009 Porsche Cayman (daily driver) |
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Pat KG Samba Member
Joined: May 02, 2012 Posts: 180 Location: VA
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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Barry and Bill
Could you please post a photo or two of your installations? |
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alex mestas Samba Member
Joined: October 24, 2008 Posts: 4 Location: Southern California
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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Like Barry and Bill I also have a Halon 2.5 lb Fire Extinguisher mounted on the steering column. Simple installation. I took a piece of a inter tube secured it to the steering column and using the "quick release" mounting I secured it to the column with a couple of hose clamps. Its easy to get to in an emergency.
I can't seem to upload the photo. Its in the gallery. |
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EverettB  Administrator

Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 71492 Location: Phoenix 602
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356JAEGER Samba Member

Joined: May 19, 2007 Posts: 444 Location: Norte California
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:27 am Post subject: |
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As I have stated previously on this topic on that 'other' site :
A. Mount the extinguisher in a readily accessible spot. My preference is
either between the seats on the shift linkage cover or under the dash
on the passenger side. Mounting it on the steering column provides
the chance that the release clip could be inadvertently released, dropping
the extinguisher into the drivers footwell, a remote but very dangerous
scenario.
B. Always spray through the deck vents, do not open the lid as it wastes
time and provides more oxygen to the fire.
C. Never leave the extinguisher (or any other heavy object) loose in the
interior as it can become a missile in the event of sudden change in the
vehicle's velocity.
Porsche number 1 has it mounted where I mount mine. If it's good enough
for # 1, it's good enough for me...
_________________ Regards,
Joel Jensen
When in doubt, think about it..
The outcome of a project is directly proportional to its preparation.
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malibubill Samba Member

Joined: May 03, 2012 Posts: 153 Location: Stylish Beach House in Baja Oxnard
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 11:54 am Post subject: |
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Pat: I'm submitting a couple of photos. Joel's photos (and for that matter his car) are better than mine. Alex's extinguisher appears to be mounted toward the passenger side of the column. Mine is right on (bottom side of it that is) the column. Joel's remarks about an inadvertent release of the extinguisher are cogent and I have seen them before but I decided I am very unlikely to somehow pull the release so I opted for the extinguisher being closer.
By the way, Joel, would you mind elaborating on what you made/did to match the #1 mounting? You might change my mind, although my wife would prefer that if the extinguisher is knocked loose by one of us that it fall on my foot on "my" side of the car (which, under California law, she reminds me, IS community property).
This pic is taken fairly close to peering directly down the column while still permitting a view of the extinguisher. Yes, the car is a survivor.
This view is from the driver's door opening. Yes the triple gauge is incorrect. Shudder.
I carry a 1 1/4 pound Halotron extinguisher in the glove box of the woodie with a ten pound just behind the driver seat. Wood burns more readily and I don't wish the termites to be unduly alarmed _________________ Bill Sampson
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Pat KG Samba Member
Joined: May 02, 2012 Posts: 180 Location: VA
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:02 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the photos Bill, Joel and Ev. I would worry me a bit having that hunk of steel near my knees if I ever hit anything. I like the idea of keeping the extinguisher on the right side or maybe on the tunnel.
I would like to find one small enough to fit in the glove box. They used to make one that size, but haven't seen one in a long time. Meanwhile I have the larger extinguisher in my garage where it won't do much good! |
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malibubill Samba Member

Joined: May 03, 2012 Posts: 153 Location: Stylish Beach House in Baja Oxnard
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:31 am Post subject: |
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Yup. I do worry, a little, about my knees and you're correct, Pat, for bringing that up. My excuse is that on the right side it will be my wife's knees. Guess who wins that one.
When you have time Joel, some installation instructions for your "right side" installation would be appreciated - who knows, Rosemary may some day come to her senses and throw me and the car out. I hope not though my knees might be in less danger. I can't jump and never could anyway.  _________________ Bill Sampson
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356JAEGER Samba Member

Joined: May 19, 2007 Posts: 444 Location: Norte California
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:49 am Post subject: |
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Bill,
Installation is not for the purist, but is reversible.
A. With extinguisher in mount, locate for best access and fairly central
mounting on the glove box base, further back for more concealment
if you wish.
B. Mark bracket location with chalk
C. Remove extinguisher, place bracket inside marks and locate the mounting
holes.
D. Punch holes with an awl or phillips screwdriver with diameter to match
mounting bolts.
E. Using round head bolts from below, locate the bracket.
F. Place large fender washers over bolts inside glove box.
G. Use nylock nuts to tighten bolts. Bolt length should not extend beyond
rounded head of nylock nut.
Simple but effective and easily repaired or replaced. If your original
box is sacrosanct, buy a repop and store the oldie. _________________ Regards,
Joel Jensen
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malibubill Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:52 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Joel. _________________ Bill Sampson
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Raindog356 Samba Member
Joined: December 08, 2009 Posts: 1 Location: ST. Augustine, FL
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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:18 am Post subject: |
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I mounted my FE bracket on the rear shift linkage cover, Easily accessible and the holes can be covered by the carpet if the bracket is removed. Not applicable to earlier cars with rounded access covers. I have since replaced carpet with German Square Weave.
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dawerks Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 8:32 am Post subject: |
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Does the 'Halotron' have to be flipped over like the powder ones to keep it fresh? _________________ "There is only one sin; disconnection from self." |
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Barry Brisco Samba Member

Joined: November 12, 2010 Posts: 119 Location: San Mateo, California
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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 8:38 am Post subject: |
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dawerks wrote: |
Does the 'Halotron' have to be flipped over like the powder ones to keep it fresh? |
Not as far as I know. Halotron is a gas. See http://www.halotron.com/technical_info.php _________________ Barry Brisco
1959 356A coupe #105553
1959 356A Convertible D #86439 (sold)
1964 356C coupe #216966 (sold)
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ensys Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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Gentlemen:
If I may be so bold: I would like to see more discussion about which type of extinguisher is best in this application.
If I remember correctly (and I'll take no bets on that), some of the dry powder types are very corrosive to aluminum alloys.
And isn't it the case that Halon is no longer Socially Acceptable?
Anyone care to help? _________________ Keep 'em flying...
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MMW Samba Member
Joined: April 30, 2012 Posts: 846 Location: northern NJ
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:39 am Post subject: |
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ensys wrote: |
Gentlemen:
If I may be so bold: I would like to see more discussion about which type of extinguisher is best in this application.
If I remember correctly (and I'll take no bets on that), some of the dry powder types are very corrosive to aluminum alloys.
And isn't it the case that Halon is no longer Socially Acceptable?
Anyone care to help? |
From what I have read you are correct on both points. However the consensus has been to use halotron which is a replacement for halon. It is supposed to be less harmful. _________________ Mic
1959 356 coupe
Missing the original engine 72488
Update - third pc. found!
Now just need the case halves.
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