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Brian Samba Moderator
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:15 pm Post subject: Dual Oil cooler bypass plate, can I use it? |
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I'm trying to put an oil filter on a single relief case, it uses the upright style oil cooler, and I'm wondering if anyone has used this before:
I don't want to make my engine full flow, so any thoughts of why I shouldn't do this? _________________ Wash your hands
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jsturtlebuggy Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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Yes it will work.
Just understand oil filtering will only be part of the time. It not the best way to do it. _________________ Joseph
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Brian Samba Moderator
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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Yea, I figured its not the best method.
I just don't have enough room for the oil pump bypass filter setup.
My understanding is that these bypasses can only be used if the return is somewhere else on the case? or can I use one of the bypass pumps that will attach to fittings to a remote filter? _________________ Wash your hands
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Dale M. Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:18 am Post subject: |
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lustig69 wrote: |
Yea, I figured its not the best method.
I just don't have enough room for the oil pump bypass filter setup.
My understanding is that these bypasses can only be used if the return is somewhere else on the case? or can I use one of the bypass pumps that will attach to fittings to a remote filter? |
You can go with a outlet plate for oil pump and go full flow, but you have to drill and tap case for return line and block pump outlet either in case or pump body....
I think the oil filter pump/plate is best option and least complicated if you can make room for it....
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68bugbaja Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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X2 on Dale's post.
If you do end up putting the filter somewhere else on the car do not hang it off the exhaust or where to rear tires will kick rocks on it. _________________ REMEMBER- Build a good engine from the the ground up and you will not need to add on extra junk to cover the mistakes.-John Muir
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Brian Samba Moderator
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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So basically, all I have to do is tap right there and plug the pump? sounds pretty simple. _________________ Wash your hands
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Dale M. Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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lustig69 wrote: |
So basically, all I have to do is tap right there and plug the pump? sounds pretty simple. |
The concept is simple.... There is a few issues getting a fitting (usually a 90° turn) to go into hole in block and it may need some tweaking (grinding/filing)to gain clearance as you screw it in.... And be sure if you plug oil pump, plug does not interfere with it going back into case or extend far enough to hit pump gears...
Needless to say you need to do these mods while engine is apart so you can clean oil passage really well... Some have had success doing it in car and extracting cutting burrs/chips from tap with grease on threads of tap and reverse air pressure from oil pressure port but its difficult to be sure passage is really clean and free of burrs/chips. Also be sure in and out of filter adapter are plumbed properly and use good quality oil lines... Pressures can go up to 120psi (or more) on cold start ups... You do not need burst oil line...
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Brian Samba Moderator
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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Well, sounds simple and yet simple enough to have a ton of issues. In the end I think I'm not going to go full flow. I'm going to try out the dual oil cooler setup once I get enough money. I'll post results if anyone is interested! _________________ Wash your hands
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