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mgphoto
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 Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:21 am Post subject: Stupid mistake! |
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I did a stupid thing, after rebuilding my dizzy I needed to reset the drive shaft (off by 90* when I assembled it).
When I tried to install the dizzy drive shaft spring using a magnet, the spring fell off, I reached my fingers in to retrieve it but I pushed the spring through the oil hole!
So now I am at the point of removing the engine to fish it out.
When I built the engine, I was told to use green Loctite on the galley plugs, several look to be leaking.
Now my questions.
What torque should I use for the galley plugs? The machine shop I used drilled and tapped varying sizes of plugs, maybe 8 or 9 of them.
Also what sealant for the plugs?
Thanks for your advice.
Mike
ps: any advice on getting the spring out without removing the engine would be very helpful! |
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djporsche
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| Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 12:10 pm Post subject: Re: Stupid mistake! |
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| mgphoto wrote: |
ps: any advice on getting the spring out without removing the engine would be very helpful! |
small magnet or small wire with a hook on the end? I would also post this up on the Pelicanparts.com |
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79SuperVert
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| Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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Every mechanic needs one of these:
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knappyroots
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| Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 12:53 pm Post subject: me too!!! |
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| i was lucky, drain the oil then fish it out with a magnet. |
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mgphoto
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| Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 4:31 pm Post subject: Stupid Mistake |
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| 79SuperVert wrote: |
Every mechanic needs one of these:
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I have one of those, oil hole much to small and no way to angle for the right position even if I could see the spring, might be possible from the "sump plate" - oil temp taco plate but I would be grasping at straws.
I split the case of another motor I had and looked carefully at the interior location of the chambers, the spring is most likely in the area the cam gear spins, which is directly behind the oil pump, (possibly!)
Thanks,
Mike |
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mgphoto
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| Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 4:51 pm Post subject: Re: me too!!! |
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| knappyroots wrote: |
| i was lucky, drain the oil then fish it out with a magnet. |
At first I examined photos of a case interior, looked like the spring would have fallen into a chamber where the distributor drive shaft gets lubricated, but I was wrong.
Going on the believe that the spring was trapped and not a threat. I reset the drive shaft position, I installed another spring I had, installed the dizzy and started the engine, let it run. After warming up I adjusted the timing, drove it into the garage and have not touched it for 10 days as I searched on line for problems. So far all I have found are success stories, no horror stories?
Please tell me more of your experience. Did you drive your car?
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Mike |
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79SuperVert
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| Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:07 pm Post subject: Re: Stupid Mistake |
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| mgphoto wrote: |
| 79SuperVert wrote: |
Every mechanic needs one of these:
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I have one of those, oil hole much to small and no way to angle for the right position even if I could see the spring, might be possible from the "sump plate" - oil temp taco plate but I would be grasping at straws.
I split the case of another motor I had and looked carefully at the interior location of the chambers, the spring is most likely in the area the cam gear spins, which is directly behind the oil pump, (possibly!)
Thanks,
Mike |
I wasn't sure it would help, but I was hoping...here's wishing everything "comes out" all right. 
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mgphoto
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| Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:49 am Post subject: Re: Stupid mistake! |
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| djporsche wrote: |
| mgphoto wrote: |
ps: any advice on getting the spring out without removing the engine would be very helpful! |
small magnet or small wire with a hook on the end? I would also post this up on the Pelicanparts.com |
Thanks for the response djporsche, I can't get into the area the spring may be lodged with a probe as the forward crank bearing boss is directly below the dizzy drive shaft, the tool would have to maintain its direction and still curve around the boss in a dog leg fashion. The magnet on just a wire would attach itself to the first ferrous metal object it encountered.
Maybe a bendable probe with an electromagnet, which can be manipulated to the area, sort of a 3 mm borescope!
Thanks for the idea,
Mike |
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raygreenwood
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| I retrieved one with a very strong shop vac necked down onto a dash vent detail nozzle. Rinse it down with Berrymans B-12 first to take sticky oil off...then let it dry...and I sucked it right back up. Ray |
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MoPor
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Small boroscopes are cheap now too. You might be able to rent or borrow one.
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