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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2004 12:12 am    Post subject: 50 barndoor bucket of sh*t Reply with quote

Has anybody seen this thing yet. Says its a 50. This thing had every horrible thing possible happen to it you could think of. Bay windshield, late dash. Look at the headlights. Someone do a free translation on this thing so I can see the explanation for this atrocity.

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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2004 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here there is a VW Bully Bj. ca. 1950. one cannot say all exactly. According to MOTOR VEHICLE letter, it is give a model 1942, there yet no Bully. The motor number which with 2/ begins is out of a commander vehicle of the armed forces. <the motor is no separate longer inside a Wartburg motor. The motor newly was overtaken (Orginalmotor as well as in the letter with number) and is available. The entire car became out of many parts zusammengabaut and has for example B1000 lamps inside, an aufgeschweißte costume ahead thereon because the orginalscheibe kapput was, it was incorporated a Wartburg disk. The entire looks very verbastelt, but one received times to GDR the values. On the types sign, VW characteristic building with a characteristic chassis number 33T... stands. Therefore not orginal. It has not is rust amply however it magnificently through rust because one has already dranrumgeschweißt. The vehicle is not goes roll bar however. Please the car looks you previously at before you offer. Joke bidders will be with 20% of the sale price sued ADVOCARD- lawyer favorite. Therefore dissuading does not view sought become it before the offering at that then to take around the vehicle not like so certain EBayer. Telephone 0162/449853
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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2004 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, I think sopme guy in the UK might be buying that...

Only kidding Lind Very Happy

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Here there is a VW Bully construction year approx. 1950. If one cannot exactly say everything. It is according a VEHICLE letter a construction year 1942, because gabs still no Bully. The engine number which with 2/begins is from a commander's carriage of the armed forces. <The engine no more is in it but a Wartburg engine. The engine became (Orginalmotor like in the letter with nummer) anew an outdated and exists. The whole car became from a lot of parts zusammengabaut and has, for example, B1000 lamps in it, a welded on mask in the front on it because orginalscheibe kapput was, a Wartburg disc was inserted. The whole one looks very much verbastelt, but one has received the values at times DDR. VW own construction with own chassis number 33 t .... stands on the type shield! Thus not orginal. However, he has rust plentifully he has not rusted through greatly because one already has dranrumgeschweißt. The carriage is a rollable, however does not go.


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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2004 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn Lind you beat me to it...
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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2004 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure what year that thing was done, but just a question out of curiosity - I know that bus is one ugly bitch, but at what point does a modified vehicle become a coachbuilt? Just thinking of those coachbuilt bug 4 dorr taxis, estates etc. that were available in the early 50's. Could this be like them? It may be worth restoring as is, I dunno. It really is ugly though, even for the uk Wink

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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2004 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the dash and the front doors look like bus, but other large portions don't look right. at first I was thinking coachbuilt onto a kubelwagen chassis, but now I just don't know. maybe it is just an especially clapped out barndoor.
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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2004 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I was getting at was that some coachbuilts aren't built from scratch they utilise much of the original bodywork.

Or as you say lind, is this just a seriously minging barndoor? Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2004 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh no! It´s really horrible! This bus was modified in East Germany in a time when there was a communist government in that country! People couldn´t get or buy anything from foreign countries. Therefore they had to modify broken parts with other than stock parts! Moreover it was very difficult to get a car in those times so that people tried everything to get or built anything like a vehicle! It is unbelievable but people often waited about 10 YEARS for a car that they bought!

THAT`S THE SAD RESULT!

Since 1989 East Germany belongs to the Federal Republic of Germany and it is democratic, too. Someone should rescue this sad thing.

If you need help with translation, then you can ask me. I don´t know the owner and I live more than thousand kilometres away from Sachsen, but I understand german because I live in Germany Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2004 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i wish they hadnt scraped the algae off of it. now it looks like hell. remember the barndoor tractor at bad camberg?
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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2004 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lind wrote:
Here there is a VW Bully Bj. ca. 1950. one cannot say all exactly. According to MOTOR VEHICLE letter, it is give a model 1942, there yet no Bully. The motor number which with 2/ begins is out of a commander vehicle of the armed forces. <the motor is no separate longer inside a Wartburg motor. The motor newly was overtaken (Orginalmotor as well as in the letter with number) and is available. The entire car became out of many parts zusammengabaut and has for example B1000 lamps inside, an aufgeschweißte costume ahead thereon because the orginalscheibe kapput was, it was incorporated a Wartburg disk. The entire looks very verbastelt, but one received times to GDR the values. On the types sign, VW characteristic building with a characteristic chassis number 33T... stands. Therefore not orginal. It has not is rust amply however it magnificently through rust because one has already dranrumgeschweißt. The vehicle is not goes roll bar however. Please the car looks you previously at before you offer. Joke bidders will be with 20% of the sale price sued ADVOCARD- lawyer favorite. Therefore dissuading does not view sought become it before the offering at that then to take around the vehicle not like so certain EBayer. Telephone 0162/449853
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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2004 4:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, I try to translate it a little bit better.

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This is a VW Bus built approx. 1950. But the owner is not really sure about it. According to the vehicle registration documents it was built in 1942, but as you know the first buses were built in 1950. (So, that´s why the owner is of the opinion that it is a 1950!!)

The engine number begins with 2/ and was from a vehicle of the armed forces. At last there was an engine from a "Wartburg" (<--Wartburg is a car produced in East Germany) installed.<This engine is not installed anymore. But you get it together with the bus. The engine is rebuilt a registerated in the vehicle registration documents.

The vehicle is rebuilt from several different vehicle parts. As there are for instance B1000 headlights, a welded frontmask with a "Wartburg"-screen because the original windscreen was damaged. The whole looks like shit (Sorry, this sentence is a free translation Wink )

The vehicle identification was changed to "VW Selfbuilt" with a new chassis number. This chassis number begins with 33T....! So it is not orginal.

The chassis is very rusty but not too bad because some parts are welded. (What an argument!! Oh my god!) The vehicle is movable but the engine does not start.

Please have a look at it before you make an offer. Joke bidders will have to pay 20% of the saleprice. Phone 0049 162/4498537


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So, that´s it. I hope that you can understand a little bit more. I think the owner has no idea about this vehicle and some of his arguments are ridiculous.

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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2004 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perfect Markus. Thanks for breakin it down for a brotha. Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2004 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn't Pyroman have a thread about this same bus a couple months back? It was on eBay Germany or something. Maybe I'm wrong, but I swear it was some bizarre East Germany hack monster. Nevertheless, I'm sure someone will buy it (perhaps hot rod it?) and get it out to shows. Has anyone told Randy at Old Bug about this one?

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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2004 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hate to say this, but I think it would be interesting to restore it to its current configuration given its unique history.

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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2004 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NorCalRiviera wrote:
Didn't Pyroman have a thread about this same bus a couple months back? It was on eBay Germany or something. Maybe I'm wrong, but I swear it was some bizarre East Germany hack monster. Nevertheless, I'm sure someone will buy it (perhaps hot rod it?) and get it out to shows. Has anyone told Randy at Old Bug about this one?

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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2004 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

for 500 euro, i think it would be worth that in parts alone.
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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2004 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks a lot Skim. Now that the cats out about that heap of crap I'll have to look around for another way to get into the BDM!
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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2004 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One thing is for sure and that is that that is one of the most mutted out turds I've seen. I seriously doubt that it is a 1950. It could quite well have started from a Barndoor, but a 1950 is doubtful. If he got the stamped numbers from just below the gas tank, we could have an answer within minutes. I see bits of Barndoor, bits of post Barndoor, a 1964-ish door panel, a 1955-1963 Deluxe rear window, a Bay window windshield, and BAJA'd wheel wells. I didn't know that they made Baja surf runners in Germany too, I thought that was more of a So Cal thing...
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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2004 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thanks a lot Skim. Now that the cats out about that heap of crap I'll have top look around for another way to get into the BDM!


That certainly wouldn't get you into the BDM, unless you were admitted for pure testicular fortitude of driving that pile exactly as it is. It is such a mess that you could conceivably "restore" it to a Bay window, starting from the windshield, a Barndoor Kombi from the decklid and front roof peak, a 1964-ish Standard from the dash and interior panels, a authentic 1970's So Cal Baja Surf Bus from the cut wheel wells, or a 1955-1963 Deluxe from the rear window. There are obviously several different directions I could see it going. There just isn't a large enough percentage of the Bus that is truly Barndoor to warrant it being saved as one.
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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2004 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skim, Seems like the pot calling the kettle black!!!LOL
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