1966 Turn Signals and Emergency Flasher switch and Relay

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I know there are a lot of topics on this subject but I am having a hard time following along with what has already been hacked on my 1966 Squareback. The car is still 6V.

The turn signals do not work at all. I have a 1968 emergency flasher switch wired in. Part number 211953235A. There is also a two pronged flasher wired in.

The 15, 30 , 49a and the left and right are all wired to the right wires on the emergency switch. The two pronged flasher is wired to the turn signal indicator light wire (Blue and Green) and the positive terminal on the emergency switch. The Blue and Green Turn signal indicator wire is also jumpered to 49A wire.
Nothing happens when the turn signal lever is turned left or right.

Here is what happens with the ignition off and the emergency flasher switch on.

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Here is what happens with the ignition on and the emergency flasher switch on.

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Here is the emergency switch

Here is the two pronged flasher

Here is the wiring from the emergency flasher (wires on bottom) to the stock harness wiring (wires on top) You can see the light blue wire jumper from the turn signal indicator to the 49a wire on the bottom. The green wire coming off the 49a on the top goes nowhere. It is just hanging not connected to anything.

Thanks for any help you can give me.

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Anybody? Please.

[sjbartnik]

Get the correct flasher.
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1965 Volkswagen 1500 Variant S
2000 Kawasaki W650

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what is the correct flasher? do you have a part number? Thanks.

[sjbartnik]

You have an early ('65 and earlier) flasher relay with a late emergency flasher switch.

The '65 and older cars did not have emergency flashers. They had turn signals only with the 2-terminal flasher can (see wiring diagram).

In '66 they started putting emergency flashers in but it was with the simple version of the flasher switch (two terminals) and the complicated 9-pin flasher relay (see '66 wiring diagram).

If you are using a switch from a '68 you'll want to use the corresponding flasher unit from a '68. This is a 4-terminal flasher, +, 49a, KBL, and 31. (Again, see '68 wiring diagram).

The problem for you is that there is no 6V flasher relay that's meant to be used with the later switch. So unless you're planning to convert to 12V, you're going to want to find the complicated 6V 9-pin flasher relay which is p/n 111 953 185 B (A or C also works) and the simple 2-pin flasher switch which is 111 953 235.

And then wire it all up according to the '66 wiring diagram.
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1965 Volkswagen 1500 Variant S
2000 Kawasaki W650

[sjbartnik]

In the meantime, you may be able to get turn signals working with your existing flasher can while you are sourcing the other parts.

Rip that whole flasher switch mess out of there. The original non-flasher setup was very simple. The flasher can has two terminals, + and S. + is power in from the fuse box, it should be a black wire that's only hot when the key is on. This is probably connected to 15 of your flasher switch.

The other terminal is the output. It should be connected to the black/green/white wire that goes up into the steering column to the turn signal switch. That's your flashing 6V and the turn signal switch directs it to the left or right side bulbs. Also on that same terminal (S) should be the blue wire that goes to the indicator lights in the dash. Originally these two wires were crimped into the same connector but if that's not the case for you you can use a piggyback connector.

The indicator bulbs in the dash get power all the time the key is on. When the flasher unit is working, there is an alternating 6v and ground happening on that blue wire. So the dash lights will flash opposite of the exterior lights.

Likely that flasher can grounds through its housing.
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1965 Volkswagen 1500 Variant S
2000 Kawasaki W650

[Gariack]

Sorry for the late reply. I'm not on the Type 3 forum much since my Daughter got a new car and dose not daily drive her 70 Fastback any more.
I assume since your blinkers flash so fast with the key off that all 4 corners are blinking outside the car.
I have hooked up a switch from a 68 Ghia in a 66 bug since the 66 6 Volt blinker is no longer available and also worked on my Daughters blinkers that use the same switch you have, that is similar if not identical to the 68 Ghia.
If wired correctly you should be able to measure +12 volts at the + terminal, White wire to 2 prong blinker, with the key off and the emergency flasher on. (terminal 30 connected to + inside the switch). With the emergency flasher off terminal 15 should be connected to + inside the switch. You should be able to measure +12 volts at terminal + with the key on but not with the key off.
If you do not have +12 at the + terminal with the key on and the switch off check for + 12 at terminal 15. (black wire) also check your brake lights and the 2nd fuse from the right. If all that measures correctly let me know. It should work with that switch and that flasher. the only difference I notice from your set up and the 66 bug was I had 49a (the blue wire on the switch connected to the terminal between the 2 white wires, but that may be a difference in the Ghia switch.

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Thanks so much for the helpful responses guys!!!

I will study up and let you know if I need any further help. Thanks again.