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kazos Samba Member

Joined: January 26, 2011 Posts: 20 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:51 pm Post subject: Bug Engine into Bus::: Mounting Ears Question |
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Heyall,
Someone has offered me a good deal on a ''71 bug engine to replace my toasted bus engine (same year). I was told that the mounting ears need to be the same, and I need some specifics on that so I can determine whether I can make use of this engine. Can someone please give me details on that? I'm not at all familiar with this, and am not present with either of the vehicles at the moment, so need something I can send to the seller. Another mechanic (out of town) told me that using an adapter kit is out of the question, as it's too complicated and unsafe.
Thanks for any info you can give! _________________ '70 Transporter II. '71 Dual Port 1600 Engine. |
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bsairhead Samba Member
Joined: October 08, 2008 Posts: 4550 Location: viroqua wi.
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Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:12 pm Post subject: Re: Bug Engine into Bus::: Mounting Ears Question |
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| I have used adapters without issue. |
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SGKent  Samba Member

Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 42932 Location: at the beach in Northern Wokistan
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Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:42 pm Post subject: Re: Bug Engine into Bus::: Mounting Ears Question |
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the ears are the same on all VW engines. There are holes on the bottom near the oil pump that hold the mustache bars that are not present on most bug engines. Sometimes the spots are there and just need drilling and tapping. Sometimes a bug engine can have been rebuilt with a universal case so they will be there. If not, some people use adapters, some do not like that. Generally "good engines" are already in running cars. A "it was running when it came out of a car" engines are a crap shoot. In 5 years someone will sell your core engine as it was running when it came out of a bus unless it has holes in it from ventilating. _________________
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airschooled Air-Schooled

Joined: April 04, 2012 Posts: 13621 Location: West Coast, USA
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Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 3:37 pm Post subject: Re: Bug Engine into Bus::: Mounting Ears Question |
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The three mounting holes are ideal, but new style adapters aren't the end of the world.
You should also consider the '71 power brake vacuum needs. A '71 bus engine would have used a dual part manifold with a 1/2" nipple coming up and out at a diagonal. You'll have to get really creative without it…
Robbie _________________ One-on-one tech help for your vintage Volkswagen:
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brandt Samba Member

Joined: April 27, 2004 Posts: 370 Location: S. Utah
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Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 6:06 am Post subject: Re: Bug Engine into Bus::: Mounting Ears Question |
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| He should be able to use his intake with brake booster port off his toasted engine. But without photos of both engines it's hard to say exactly. |
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blue72beetle Samba Member

Joined: April 23, 2008 Posts: 896 Location: Fort Wayne, IN
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Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 6:18 am Post subject: Re: Bug Engine into Bus::: Mounting Ears Question |
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His signature says 70 Bus. 70 doesn't have the booster, right? _________________ -Andy-
-1970 Ghia-
-1971 Bus Ongoing EJ22 Conversion- |
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airschooled Air-Schooled

Joined: April 04, 2012 Posts: 13621 Location: West Coast, USA
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Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:23 am Post subject: Re: Bug Engine into Bus::: Mounting Ears Question |
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Whoops. Just saw a lot of numbers and got confused! _________________ One-on-one tech help for your vintage Volkswagen:
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SGKent  Samba Member

Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 42932 Location: at the beach in Northern Wokistan
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Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:08 am Post subject: Re: Bug Engine into Bus::: Mounting Ears Question |
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| airschooled wrote: |
| Whoops. Just saw a lot of numbers and got confused! |
That happens when you start thinking electric. What I want to know is where do you store the extension cord and how far can you go before it unplugs  _________________
Canned Water - the new California approved parts cleaner (except in a drought in which case rub it with sand).
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HarryFD Samba Member
Joined: February 24, 2012 Posts: 836 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:35 am Post subject: Re: Bug Engine into Bus::: Mounting Ears Question |
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FWIW, in 2013 I replaced my failing single port motor with a dual port from a 1971 Bug. It did not have the drilled bosses for the mustache bar. I used this adapter that fits over the oil pump. To date, no issues. YMMV
Purchased locally but looks like this kit: https://www.busdepot.com/0091480 _________________ 1970 Deluxe Sunroof Bay Brilliant Blue/Cloud White
1971 Jaguar XKE 2+2 V12 Coupe
1973.5 911 Targa
2009 MB C300 |
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