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ppilotmike  Samba Member
Joined: December 10, 2019 Posts: 86 Location: Oscoda Mi
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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2025 1:55 pm Post subject: my $100 engine. |
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So I bought this engine last summer and threw it in the corner of my garage.The guy that sold it to me didn't know much about it other then it was in a buggy. It is a dual port with a S/N that starts with AE. It was semi complete but not much it the way of tins. So I started cleaning up for disassembly and noticed it had a thick oil pump. Also a Bosch dizzy with the Bosch name on one boss and the other boss is blank, Brazil? Inside is very clean with little wear any where. The down side, for me, is it has an Engle cam, vf14. I would like to build it as a spare stock engine that will run on regular grade gas. My 65 has a placard on the gas cap to use only 92+ octane fuel and it gets old paying $4.26 a gallon. I am actually thinking about reassembling and resealing it as is. Any thoughts? |
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Dusty1 Samba Member
Joined: April 16, 2004 Posts: 2134
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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2025 3:08 pm Post subject: Re: my $100 engine. |
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The VZ14 is a short track cam. Compared to the Engle 110 it has a little more lift, a little less duration.
I would slip a CB2228 or 2280 in there with a fresh set of CB's low buck lifters. Want to save money on fuel? Both of those cams are billed as "economy" cams.
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BFB Samba Member

Joined: November 03, 2014 Posts: 2721
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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2025 3:37 pm Post subject: Re: my $100 engine. |
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You probably need to post more info about what itd be going in, how you drive, and what you want. Then youll get more responses.
If you decide not to use the vz14 and want to sell it, holler at me. _________________ "how am i supposed to torque the rear wheel nut to 250 ft lbs??? " - clonebug
An interesting thing happens in forums where everyone starts parroting the same thing and "common knowledge" takes over.
Most experts aren't. |
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ppilotmike  Samba Member
Joined: December 10, 2019 Posts: 86 Location: Oscoda Mi
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2025 8:21 am Post subject: Re: my $100 engine. |
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My expectations are pretty small. It could end up in my dune buggy or the 65 beetle. My driving for either car is very easy. Nothing long distance or on a freeway. I rarely exceed 60MPH. No hills around here. My main concern is regular grade gas. I don't know the reasoning for the 92 octane sticker as compression tests are always around 105 psi. I may start trying some regular to see what happens. I will not be reusing the Engle cam. Would like to find a stock one if I can. I like the tag line about experts. seems like the vast majority of keyboard experts fit the definition of expert which is a drip under pressure  |
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ppilotmike  Samba Member
Joined: December 10, 2019 Posts: 86 Location: Oscoda Mi
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2025 8:26 am Post subject: Re: my $100 engine. |
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My expectations are pretty small. It could end up in my dune buggy or the 65 beetle. My driving for either car is very easy. Nothing long distance or on a freeway. I rarely exceed 60MPH. No hills around here. My main concern is regular grade gas. I don't know the reasoning for the 92 octane sticker as compression tests are always around 105 psi. I may start trying some regular to see what happens. I will not be reusing the Engle cam. Would like to find a stock one if I can. |
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baldessariclan Samba Member

Joined: October 14, 2016 Posts: 2078 Location: Wichita, KS
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2025 10:03 am Post subject: Re: my $100 engine. |
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ppilotmike wrote: |
I would like to build it as a spare stock engine that will run on regular grade gas. My 65 has a placard on the gas cap to use only 92+ octane fuel and it gets old paying $4.26 a gallon.
My main concern is regular grade gas. I don't know the reasoning for the 92 octane sticker as compression tests are always around 105 psi. I may start trying some regular to see what happens. |
The specification for using "minimum 91 RON" gas on stickers in these cars is from the octane rating definition used back in the 1960's -- RON = "research octane number". Later on, the United States and some other countries moved to specifying a fuel's octane level using the AKI designation -- AKI = "anti-knock index".
The two numbers are roughly corelated, and an octane rating of 91 RON is essentially equivalent to 87 AKI (you can read more about it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_rating).
So yes, here in the US you should be able to use "87 octane" (i.e. 87 AKI) rated gas in your old stock beetle w/ no worries -- it has essentially the same octane level as "91 RON" rated gas in Europe and elsewhere. _________________ 1971 Standard Beetle — fairly stock / driver
baldessariclan -- often in error, never in doubt... |
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Dusty1 Samba Member
Joined: April 16, 2004 Posts: 2134
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2025 11:18 am Post subject: Re: my $100 engine. |
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ppilotmike wrote: |
I will not be reusing the Engle cam. Would like to find a stock one if I can. |
Perfect! Sell it to BFB. Your $100 engine just became a $50 engine.
I did a deal like this almost a year ago. AE dual port, supposedly will run, won't run as- is. No flywheel, no distributor. The seller then points me to another AE. "Want that one, too?" he asks. So I roll out with two dual ports. Cool thing is one has half the flaps on the fan shroud. The other one has the other side of the flaps. Got one good 009 w/ Pertronix. So... yeah. One distributor between two motors. Ya gotta count the small victories. They can't all be big wins.
Next deal I got a tote fulla carbs. Got a German 34, a Brazil 34 and two count 'em two sets of ICTs. It's not as if I need carburetors. But... you know what they say,
"You can't have too many carburetors."
If you want a stock cam just PM me. I'm sure I have a stock cam for an AE dual port. Have any number of old lifters as well.
"Guaranteed for 100 years or 100 yards whatever comes first..."
I would seriously throw down on a new cam, like I said either a CB2280 or 2228. The 2228 is billed as an "economy" cam. It's supposed to make good power and return up to 40mpg. The 2280 is almost the same grind only on 107 lobe centers.
I'm not just spending your money. I'm using those cams for my next several builds.
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