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Merian Samba Member

Joined: January 04, 2014 Posts: 5212 Location: Orygun
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 10:32 pm Post subject: Headlights |
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some info on e-code headlights:
http://www.headlightservices.com/FAQs.html
I found this on a search, and did the search when I discovered that different vendors sell different 7" outer headlights for the SA Grill. GW sells the Hella Vision Plus which is apparently NOT as good as e-code headlights. |
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tjet Samba Member

Joined: June 10, 2014 Posts: 3727 Location: Az
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 10:46 pm Post subject: Re: Headlights |
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IMO, any E-code works better than DOTs. I have E-codes in all my cars.
BTW, there's a new Hella round 7" e-code "Super". See link below. It looks like the less expensive non-city light version is sold out
http://www.rallylights.com/hella-super-7-round-h4-...39519.html |
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Merian Samba Member

Joined: January 04, 2014 Posts: 5212 Location: Orygun
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 10:56 pm Post subject: Re: Headlights |
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| the beam pattern differs between the two - his site explains the differences & why if you check out the various tabs |
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dkoesyncro Samba Member
Joined: December 10, 2006 Posts: 1000
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 7:24 am Post subject: Re: Headlights |
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| I'm slowly building a grill that resembles the SA grill. I sourced some ecodes from across the pond. They are fluted as well. I'm not sure the beam pattern, but they are beautiful to look at. |
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tjet Samba Member

Joined: June 10, 2014 Posts: 3727 Location: Az
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Merian Samba Member

Joined: January 04, 2014 Posts: 5212 Location: Orygun
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 4:54 pm Post subject: Re: Headlights |
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I discovered that BD is selling the SAE M76 DOT 7" headlights with their SA Grill kit.
Anyone would be well advised to buy the Vision Plus items from GoWesty or, even better, find some e-code lamps. |
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Merian Samba Member

Joined: January 04, 2014 Posts: 5212 Location: Orygun
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:13 pm Post subject: Re: Headlights |
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These would be better than the Vision Plus:
http://www.van-cafe.com/home/van/page_825_141/7-inch-round-h4-european-headlamp.html
The next step up in halogens would be Cibie, which Daniel Stern imports.
Eventually low cost high quality LED headlights should become available, but the self-leveling requirement may mean they will never fit in the Vanagon headlight bay. |
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syncrodoka Samba Member

Joined: December 27, 2005 Posts: 12407 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:31 pm Post subject: Re: Headlights |
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You can get Cibie headlights from amazon for a lot less than Daniel Stern.
Last edited by syncrodoka on Mon Dec 07, 2015 6:15 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Merian Samba Member

Joined: January 04, 2014 Posts: 5212 Location: Orygun
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 6:05 pm Post subject: Re: Headlights |
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I looked on Amazon and it wasn't clear exactly what the cibie headlights really were - just a long string of numbers.
Have you ordered them? |
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syncrodoka Samba Member

Joined: December 27, 2005 Posts: 12407 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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SteveVanB Samba Member

Joined: June 01, 2008 Posts: 1645 Location: This side of Daytona
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 6:23 pm Post subject: Re: Headlights |
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So that amazon link is for an e-code light? I'm in the market as my Neolites are rusting from the inside out. I'm also really intrigued with the Delta Quad Bar headlights....
http://www.amazon.com/Delta-01-1199-50XB-Quad-Bar-Headlight-Compatibility/dp/B00BQVEIYG
Just because they look cool. Ive always liked the crosshair headlights.... _________________ 91 CARAT
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Merian Samba Member

Joined: January 04, 2014 Posts: 5212 Location: Orygun
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 6:24 pm Post subject: Re: Headlights |
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yes, that's the one I found - it says it is a fog light however
(beyond the help & support from Mr. Stern) |
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syncrodoka Samba Member

Joined: December 27, 2005 Posts: 12407 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 7:23 pm Post subject: Re: Headlights |
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Yes, those are E-code lights.
I found it cheaper, easier and faster to buy the lights from amazon but there is nothing wrong with Daniel Stern.
I have found many different brands of car owner sites that recommend the amazon cibie lights along with this guy-
Look at the reviews at the bottom of the amazon cibie link if you are interested. |
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yiucycle Samba Member

Joined: August 22, 2007 Posts: 421
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:23 pm Post subject: Re: Headlights |
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I got my Cibie e-code and hella 80/100 bulbs from amazon too, super fast delivery. Just make sure to install headlight relay, and run extra ground from the headlight bulb socket to the nearest sheet metal. You will be surprise how much voltage drop from old wiring and corroded ground make the headlight so much dimmer. By doing those two thing will make any headlight brighter. _________________ 1980 2.8LV6 Fiero ASI/Riviera Vanagon
"there is no point in being embarrassed of all the stupid shit i done and will continue to do"
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newfisher Samba Member
Joined: January 05, 2012 Posts: 1764 Location: The wet spot--Oregon
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:58 pm Post subject: Re: Headlights |
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| Love my E-codes. Relay upgrade and stuck some HID H4s and wow! |
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zak99B5 Samba Member

Joined: December 21, 2014 Posts: 471 Location: Albany, NY
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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:50 am Post subject: Re: Headlights |
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| newfisher wrote: |
| Love my E-codes. Relay upgrade and stuck some HID H4s and wow! |
HIDs in a reflector housing?? Few things are more blinding to oncoming traffic. _________________ 1991 Tintop GL Manual tranny, EJ22 |
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tjet Samba Member

Joined: June 10, 2014 Posts: 3727 Location: Az
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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 2:14 pm Post subject: Re: Headlights |
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| zak99B5 wrote: |
| newfisher wrote: |
| Love my E-codes. Relay upgrade and stuck some HID H4s and wow! |
HIDs in a reflector housing?? Few things are more blinding to oncoming traffic. |
I agree. Some of those newer cheap Autozone "blue" bulbs, (not sure if they are HID or Halogen), coupled with a standard DOT spec fuzzy pattern lamp lens, the glare is bad. At least in my lifted Syncro I don't get a direct hit like I do in my other cars.
A really good H4/H3 (non-bluish)bulb is the Osram Nightbreaker +. I have the 55/60w in my rectangular ecode low beams & 60w in the high beams. They have more of a pure white color to them - but not blue. Also, not sure if it makes a difference, but the ones I bought off Ebay are made in Germany
http://www.osram.com/osram_com/news-and-knowledge/.../index.jsp |
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thatvwbusguy Samba Member

Joined: April 18, 2007 Posts: 1712 Location: Newmarket, New Hampshire
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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 6:36 pm Post subject: Re: Headlights |
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The Cibie's from amazon are definitely the real deal. There is no better e-Code H4 available for the price.
HID's installed in reflector headlights are going to blind oncoming traffic regardless of e-Code or DOT markings. There is absolutely no way to change the light source from a filament bulb to an HID capsule without completely destroying the optics of the lights and causing tons of glare. _________________ Jay Brown
'85 Zetec Westfalia
Newmarket, NH
If you want others to be happy, practice compassion.
If you want to be happy, practice compassion. |
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zak99B5 Samba Member

Joined: December 21, 2014 Posts: 471 Location: Albany, NY
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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:21 pm Post subject: Re: Headlights |
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| thatvwbusguy wrote: |
HID's installed in reflector headlights are going to blind oncoming traffic regardless of e-Code or DOT markings. There is absolutely no way to change the light source from a filament bulb to an HID capsule without completely destroying the optics of the lights and causing tons of glare. |
And that glare will also hurt the vision of the driver. Sure, things up close will be well-lit and you will think you can see better.
But your pupils will contract, and there will be less light projected down the road. That's a bad combination. _________________ 1991 Tintop GL Manual tranny, EJ22 |
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Merian Samba Member

Joined: January 04, 2014 Posts: 5212 Location: Orygun
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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:05 pm Post subject: Re: Headlights |
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| thatvwbusguy wrote: |
The Cibie's from amazon are definitely the real deal. There is no better e-Code H4 available for the price.
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ratwell says the SAE M76 DOT motorcycle headlights are as good as the e-code
- thoughts?? |
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