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Tcash
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Instrument Cluster ID T2
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April of '68:
Brake warning light is placed at top, no symbols for indicator lights and odometer is 5 digits, no fractional miles/kilometers.
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68-70 Instrument Cluster
71 Instrument Cluster
72 Instrument Cluster
73-75 Instrument Cluster
76-79 Instrument Cluster
Instrument cluster mounting clips 211 957 089
KMH RHD 74 Instrument Cluster
KMH T2a Instrument Cluster complete no brake light
KMH T2b Instrument Cluster trip meter speedo + Gas Heater Clock
KMH T2b Instrument Cluster trip meter speedo + Gas Heater Clock
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Brian
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April of '68:
Brake warning light is placed at top, no symbols for indicator lights and odometer is 5 digits, no fractional miles/kilometers.
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Tcash
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| Added thank you lustig69. |
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Tcash
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Ginger Rogers
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This is the cluster on my '73 Westy. Looks different to the one shown above.
Sorry about the reflections, but the warning lights are in the dark grey finish without the silver centre. The clock binnacle also is in dark grey. Which is correct?
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Tcash
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Ya, I was working on a Gauge Post. I guess I should have titled this post (Instrument panel insert (w/o instruments)
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Ginger Rogers
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| Tcash wrote: |
Ya, I was working on a Gauge Post. I guess I should have titled this post (Instrument panel insert (w/o instruments)
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Sorry, can't understand what you're saying here. |
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busdaddy
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| Ginger Rogers wrote: |
This is the cluster on my '73 Westy. Looks different to the one shown above.
Sorry about the reflections, but the warning lights are in the dark grey finish without the silver centre. The clock binnacle also is in dark grey. Which is correct? |
Someone's swapped in an earlier speedometer, the fuel gauge and clock blank are correct for a 73, not so much for the speedo.
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Ginger Rogers
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| Thanks busdaddy, guess I'll have to start looking for a grey-face speedo. |
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Tcash
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EDIT IN RED
In the first post, second picture, description should read (69-70 Instrument Cluster) |
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andrig's
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| Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 12:11 pm Post subject: Re: Instrument Cluster ID T2 |
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| Tcash wrote: |
Instrument Cluster ID T2
| lustig69 wrote: |
April of '68:
Brake warning light is placed at top, no symbols for indicator lights and odometer is 5 digits, no fractional miles/kilometers.
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68-70 Instrument Cluster
71 Instrument Cluster
72 Instrument Cluster
73-75 Instrument Cluster
76-79 Instrument Cluster
Instrument cluster mounting clips 211 957 089
KMH RHD 74 Instrument Cluster
KMH T2a Instrument Cluster complete no brake light
KMH T2b Instrument Cluster trip meter speedo + Gas Heater Clock
KMH T2b Instrument Cluster trip meter speedo + Gas Heater Clock |
I know I am waking up a very old thread, but this has been extremely useful for me. I may develop an instrument cluster for bay window buses that supports modern gauges, for those that may want additional instrumentation, and more modern technology, but want to keep a stock appearance, and/or not have a bunch of gauges mounted in weird spots that are hard to see.
I have a good design of the instrument panel, but I wanted to possibly also include heat/defrost/fresh air control levers, that would match better the new instrument panel.
In the pictures for the '73-'75 instrument cluster, there are three control levers. I have seen this exact same instrument cluster (with the red transparent labels that are backlit) on the Just Kampers online store (U.K.), with four levers. In the picture here, it has three, but they appear to be the style held in with the plastic bushing/pin. That would normally be four levers. The three levers that are plastic and push on, seem to have started in '76, according to your pictures. The Just Kampers list the plastic push on style levers as '74-'79.
Does anyone truly know when the new style push on plastic levers where introduced, and whether in '73 they really only had three levers or four?
Also, if they did go to three levers in '73, where they still the steel ones with the plastic knob that connected with the plastic bushing/pin?
I don't necessarily have to include levers, but it could be a nicer product if it included upgraded levers too. |
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busdaddy
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The 3 plastic levers started on the 1973 model year, new heat system=less levers and space age plastic. Some of those pictures are the victim of swapped parts, they focus on the dash pod and not the levers.
From the 73 owners manual:
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Whaanga
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| Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 4:33 pm Post subject: Re: Instrument Cluster ID T2 |
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My bus is from Sept of 73. Here is a recent photo of the dash. Mine has the plastic ‘snap on’ heat levers with two for heat and one for fresh air.
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andrig's
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| Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 12:21 pm Post subject: Re: Instrument Cluster ID T2 |
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| busdaddy wrote: |
The 3 plastic levers started on the 1973 model year, new heat system=less levers and space age plastic. Some of those pictures are the victim of swapped parts, they focus on the dash pod and not the levers.
From the 73 owners manual:
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Thanks, I really appreciate this. |
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andrig's
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| Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 12:22 pm Post subject: Re: Instrument Cluster ID T2 |
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| Whaanga wrote: |
My bus is from Sept of 73. Here is a recent photo of the dash. Mine has the plastic ‘snap on’ heat levers with two for heat and one for fresh air.
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Awesome! Two confirmations, that indeed it did change over to three levers, and they are the plastic push on style.
I appreciate this immensely. |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 6:37 am Post subject: Re: Instrument Cluster ID T2 |
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| Whaanga wrote: |
My bus is from Sept of 73. Here is a recent photo of the dash. Mine has the plastic ‘snap on’ heat levers with two for heat and one for fresh air.
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My British specification, right-hand-drive, 1973 model-year (manufactured in late-August or early-September 1972), VW 1600 Type 2 Kombi (Type 23-517) based Westfalia Continental motor-caravan, was factory-fitted with three metal & rubber-knobbed heating & ventilation control levers.
It has instruments of the style as those shown for the 1971 & 1972 model years. There are moulded cut-outs for two warning lights at the top & bottom of the instrument panel, of the size & shape of the brake circuit failure warning lights, which are located to the extreme left of the fuel-gauge & six-warning-light cluster, close to the heater & ventilation lever slots.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 8:28 am Post subject: Re: Instrument Cluster ID T2 |
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Hello, everyone.
I'm trying to get some advice, input, opinion, direction, parts, or whatever kind of help I can get! We have a '74 Type 2 bus. We've rewired the entire thing. I'm trying to locate wire terminals, that go in the connector to connect to the back of the instrument cluster. They are not made any longer, and I cannot find any of them anywhere. I have not idea how to handle this problem at this point. Any information on how to circumvent their use, or where to find them or anything would be appreciated!
*if I need to move this post, please advise!
Thank y'all!
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| Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 11:26 am Post subject: Re: Instrument Cluster ID T2 |
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There are two rows stacked and appear to connect to both sides (or either side) of the Connector plate on the back of the cluster, if that makes sense. |
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busdaddy
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| Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 2:53 pm Post subject: Re: Instrument Cluster ID T2 |
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VW didn't put that there, step one is find out what make and model of car it's from.
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