Big nut tranny/nose cone q’s into a 59

[Joe_bury]

Hi all,
Just need a little bit of guidance. I’m going to be fitting a big nut tranny into my 59 bus however it’s missing the nose cone. I’m so confused as to which nose cone will fit ok. I found a 211.301.211G nose cone with the hockey stick for sale which is listed for a later split bus and will fit my tranny fine however will it be ok fitting into my 59 bus? Or do I need to modify or get a different nose cone to suit?
Your help will be appreciated, tranny knowledge is lacking a wee bit..

Thank you

[Lind]

Is your bus German?
what is the VIN number?
do you have a picture of the transmission mount area on the bus?

Most German '59 buses have the early style split case transmission, which uses a different mount than a bignut transmission. The last few months of '59 model year production uses the later transmission.
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[Joe_bury]

Hey mate,
It’s an Aussie delivered bus (I’m in Melbourne) vin is 434824
This is the best picture I have at the moment

Hope this helps. The gearbox in there is not the one going be to use btw
Thank you

[Lind]

Your 211G nose cone will bolt right on to the transmission. Bolting the transmission to the bus is a different story. What you have is a split case (early style) bus, and you want to put a tunnel type (late style) transmission in it. To bolt in a late transmission in an early bus you need to either cut the original trans mount out and weld a different mount in, or you have to go through a bit of work to do it without hacking on the bus. There are half a dozen solutions to do it, all with good and bad aspects to them. You can search through the forums to find the different solutions. In the end, it comes down to do you want to spend ~500 to preserve the originality of the body of your bus.

For my early bus, I did not want to hack the body, so I had a very talented local machinist weld part of a split case nose cone onto a tunnel type nose cone (one without the backup light switch, which interferes with the fit). Then we used a center mount for the transmission to carry the load. It was a bit of work, but I am happy I did it that way on that bus.

Most people just hack the old mount and weld in a new one.
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[Bruce Amacker]

In addition to the correct info above, you'll have issues with the parking brake cables and need to shorten them, plus you may have issues getting the tires onto the bus as the BN is a bit wider and the '59 does not have the flared fenders like later buses have. BTDT.
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[Joe_bury]

Thanks all for the prompt replies. Did a bit more digging and believe this would do the job?
https://wagenswest.com/product/lollipop/ should be all I need to do this install right using a standard nose cone?

Cheers

[earlywesty]

[Joe_bury]

That’s great thank you all for you advice.

Lastly though I remembered I do have an old 211.301.211A nose cone it’s listed as 51-58 can I use that on the big nut box and just bolt right in?

Thank you
Joe

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