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Blueconundrum Samba Member
Joined: September 07, 2010 Posts: 148 Location: Bozeman, MT
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:04 am Post subject: Stealth pop |
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So, I will be camperizing my tin-top Syncro (adding fridge, stove, propane, some storage, but keeping the sweet huge bed). I am not attracted to the Westy pop-top because of stealth camping/sleeping priorities (and nothing shouts "I am sleeping in/living out of this thing!" like those side ports, a pop top (even unpopped) and curtains.
Has anyone considered pop-up-izing the actual roof of the van? Or some sort of equally slim-line solution where it looks like the van has a tin top? Obviously all the hardware etc would end up taking a little headroom up on the perimeter, but would it be beyond the realm of possibility? _________________ 1988 Vanagon Syncro EJ22 |
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mwsnow Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2007 Posts: 266 Location: Alton, NH
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:32 am Post subject: |
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I have thought about this and talked through it a little bit with a fellow van owner. It is an interesting idea that presents too much of an engineering challenge for me. I can't see any way to do it without serious metal fabrication skills. Some of the fiberglass/plastic poptops are very slim. It would be nice to have something as low-profile as the Westfalia Eurovan top for a Vanagon. |
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tencentlife Samba Member
Joined: May 02, 2006 Posts: 10147 Location: Abiquiu, NM, USA
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:00 am Post subject: |
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I want the Reimo Pilzdach (mushroom roof) for standing room amidships. It's low profile, painted to match the roof color it blends in pretty well. Way expensive to import but it could be copied as a project. _________________ Shop for unique and useful Vanagon accessories at the Vanistan shop:
https://intrepidoverland.com/vanistan/
also available at VanCafe.com!
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crazyvwvanman Samba Member

Joined: January 28, 2008 Posts: 10365 Location: Orbiting San Diego
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:05 am Post subject: |
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Here is one for sale. I want it. Make that 5 of them.
http://www.vwt3.co.at/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=268331
Mark
tencentlife wrote: |
I want the Reimo Pilzdach (mushroom roof) for standing room amidships. It's low profile, painted to match the roof color it blends in pretty well. Way expensive to import but it could be copied as a project. |
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joseph928 Samba Member
Joined: September 22, 2011 Posts: 2114 Location: flagstaff az.
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:13 am Post subject: cool top |
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I love the remio , but the cost. Love the other one make that 6! I did my syncro tin top like you want to do, makes a cool van for camping, I to like the big bed. _________________ 1987 syncro westy tin top sun roof , GW2.3, rear locker, decoupler, Gary Lee tire rack & winch mount, lift, south african grill, big brakes , rhein alloy ,15 BFG AT, Fiamma 10 foot awning ,140 watt rear 85 watt front solar , mppt, truckfridge, automatic fire extinguishing system, tencent oil cooler, And a RMW SS exhaust! - 1971 bug convertible 1776 engine- 2010 Subaru turbo - 1993 Toyota 4x4 truck - 1999 Harley 95 CI, big bore, Andrews cams . Also 80-84- vans. Stock 65 sunroof bug. |
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tencentlife Samba Member
Joined: May 02, 2006 Posts: 10147 Location: Abiquiu, NM, USA
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:34 am Post subject: |
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I can read the German mostly, but hit Google translate just to make it easy. Gotta love "reimo roof fungus".
Already sold anyway. Wish I could find one stateside. I can't even find it at the Reimo website today. _________________ Shop for unique and useful Vanagon accessories at the Vanistan shop:
https://intrepidoverland.com/vanistan/
also available at VanCafe.com!
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crazyvwvanman Samba Member

Joined: January 28, 2008 Posts: 10365 Location: Orbiting San Diego
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:45 am Post subject: |
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Here is the Reimo Pilzdach (mushroom roof) .
Might not be too costly to crank some out like it.
Mark |
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noganav Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2006 Posts: 1236 Location: San Diego CA
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:35 am Post subject: |
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People are going to notice an unusual van far more than they would a stock looking Westfalia or a regular tin-top.
I lived in my westy for years without any problem at all. Just keep your van and the area around you clean. When you stealth camp in the city, try and find street parking near apartment buildings. No one will bother you. |
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Blueconundrum Samba Member
Joined: September 07, 2010 Posts: 148 Location: Bozeman, MT
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:47 am Post subject: |
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Yeah I know a really good fiberglass guy, too....the gears are turning! _________________ 1988 Vanagon Syncro EJ22 |
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syncromike Samba Member

Joined: November 14, 2011 Posts: 660 Location: Boise, ID
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 11:19 am Post subject: Re: Stealth pop |
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Blueconundrum wrote: |
So, I will be camperizing my tin-top Syncro (adding fridge, stove, propane, some storage, but keeping the sweet huge bed) |
I have a converted tintop for same reasons as you, but didn't try for a "stealth" pop-top. The curved roof on the tin-top combined with the structural steel would make it tough to engineer. I'd think you'd need to weld on a donor roof from a Westy and then use the original tin top as a lid for your tent.
That said, I'd think if you didn't need the loft for sleeping space, with a regular pop-top most people would think you weren't camping inside if the top wasn't popped while you were sleeping.
So, what are you doing for Stove/fridge/storage? _________________ _____________________
'91 Syncro w/ Country Homes PopTop |
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lloydy Samba Member
Joined: September 15, 2010 Posts: 715 Location: cheam surrey
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chimivee Samba Member

Joined: September 23, 2009 Posts: 745 Location: Orange, CA
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:17 pm Post subject: Re: Stealth pop |
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Blueconundrum wrote: |
(and nothing shouts "I am sleeping in/living out of this thing!" like those side ports, a pop top (even unpopped) and curtains. |
Disagree. My experience is that, with the top down, nearly no one has a clue that a full Westy is a camp mobile. (And nearly everyone knows it's a camp mobile with the top popped ) Drawn curtains, be it on a tin-top or top-down Westy, is a bigger giveaway that somebody may be inside. But I've never had a problem stealth camping using common sense.
Pop up tin-top would be cool though. _________________ -James
86 Syncro Westy, etc |
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0to60in6min Samba Member
Joined: November 27, 2006 Posts: 3456 Location: OR & CA (Oregon/California)
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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how about a hi-top? It's higher than a westy top but you have space with no need to pop the top.. ever... and nobody notice that you have a bed up there
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Phishman068 Samba Member

Joined: February 19, 2007 Posts: 1996 Location: Pittsburgh PA (ish)
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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That's why I feel my sunroof westy is PERFECT! Standing room when I want it, (but not when it's raining....you can still cook without standing though) and sleek profile.
I can even leave the sunroof open while it's parked, the car's so tall most people have no idea it's open. |
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notchboy Samba Member

Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 22659 Location: Escondido CA
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Blueconundrum Samba Member
Joined: September 07, 2010 Posts: 148 Location: Bozeman, MT
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:37 pm Post subject: Re: Stealth pop |
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syncromike wrote: |
So, what are you doing for Stove/fridge/storage? |
I'll probably get a TruckFridge new, and I've been keeping tabs with our local RV salvage/seller for a stove - I'll be making custom cabinets and anchoring them so they can be removeable (I will occasionally be carting around vanloads of paraglider pilots and their gear).
I also have this pipe dream about getting a "range" instead of just a stove, because I have this fantasy of fresh baked chocolate chip cookies in my van. I figure I can save the storage space by putting my pots/pans in the oven while in transit.
During a big remodel project, I recently discovered the wonders of Google Sketchup - so I will be mocking up the whole interior of the van using that program. Should be fun! _________________ 1988 Vanagon Syncro EJ22 |
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mpabegg Samba Member

Joined: May 05, 2011 Posts: 79 Location: Ballard, WA
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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We stealth camp all over the place in both, our EV Weekender and our tin-top Syncro. The best thing you can do is dark tinted windows and curtains. When all the curtains are closed, you can't see them at all. I love the queen size bed. All three of us (Wife, daughter, and I) usually end up sleeping below in the weekender. We rarely pop the top. Eventually we will be putting a high top on the Syncro. Not for another bed, but for more headroom and storage. _________________ 90 Syncro "Priscilla" |
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BitterBeerFace Samba Member
Joined: June 11, 2010 Posts: 386 Location: Southern MN
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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Look up Vixens. Maybe hinge the driver's side and "pop" the passenger side up a foot or two for the headroom... _________________ 1980 Full Camper, been in the family since it was brand new!
1989 Full Camper, great-great-aunt's since brand new! |
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scottf3334 Samba Member

Joined: May 26, 2006 Posts: 205 Location: Davenport, FL
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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I miss my Vixen sometimes It defiantly was not stealthy, but did get great gas mileage.
The roof opened all the way, there were no supports except the air powered struts that opened it and the folding plexiglass once the roof was fully opened.
I don't think it would work on a vanagon. The Vixen was all fiberglass.
_________________ 84 Westy
78 Super vert
87 Westy Zetec |
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syncromike Samba Member

Joined: November 14, 2011 Posts: 660 Location: Boise, ID
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 12:09 am Post subject: Re: Stealth pop |
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Blueconundrum wrote: |
I also have this pipe dream about getting a "range" instead of just a stove, because I have this fantasy of fresh baked chocolate chip cookies in my van. |
Camp Chef makes a decent camp oven that would probably work well in a camper.
I'm trying to think of a slick way to anchor my kitchen "modules" without bolting to the floor or having studs sticking out of the floor. _________________ _____________________
'91 Syncro w/ Country Homes PopTop |
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