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kommodore
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 Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 5:11 pm Post subject: looking for some info about this buggy frame. Help please! |
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Hi guys, i was watching some sandrail videos on youtube, and i came across this video of this guy john jackson, who's a snowboard superstar or something like that, and has a video driving a vw sand rail. Well the thing is, i really like the sand rail hes driving, and i need info about the frame he's using, could you help me identify wich frame it is??
thanks!
Here's the video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBCoGLAy3aM
And some pics.
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Brian
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kommodore
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| Brian wrote: |
| It's dope, I want one. |
 Yeah, that's what i though when i saw the video, i want to build a rail just like that one  |
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Dale M.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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There are at least half dozen similar frames in production, acouple of dozen on the market (at any time)... Google or Craigslist can be your friend....
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kommodore
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| Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 6:36 am Post subject: |
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| and what wheelbase would you guys say it is? just by eye?? |
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MetricMuscle
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You should be able to lots better.
That looks like a swing axle set up, rusted, even broke down during his thrash session.
Are you looking for a long or short wheelbase?
That one should be in the 95" range. |
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kommodore
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| Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 7:09 am Post subject: |
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| MetricMuscle wrote: |
You should be able to lots better.
That looks like a swing axle set up, rusted, even broke down during his thrash session.
Are you looking for a long or short wheelbase?
That one should be in the 95" range. |
i want one just like that
I dont know if its the way they film the video or what, but i like how it moves around, and how simple it looks |
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dustymojave
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Dale M. and MetricMuscle are right. It's a frame style called a "shortback". Originally by Sand Toys of SoCal back some 40 years ago. I had one in the mid-70s. Since then, they;ve been manufactured by a great many companies, kinda like Manx buggy imitations. Berrien Buggy (now known as Acme) made them for many years. Other than the rear cage brace/bumper cage area, this is the same frame as the Berrien/Acme Warrior and Classic models. If you like the look of this car, it would be EZ to imitate with a new Berrien with the back of the frame custom built to suit. This one has a wheelbase somewhere around stock VW - 95" or so. Berrien offers them in 90, 95 or 100". Older used frames in this style are around as short as 80" wheelbase.
They were called "Shortback" because the back of the frame ended above the bellhousing of the trans. This one has had the rear portion cut off and replaced recently including adding a rear bumper cage.
This particular frame also has a low main roll cage hoop dangerously close to knucklehead's noggin. Better than an aluminum baseball bat for getting the driver and passenger's attention. The low cage provides a good look, but not so good for headroom. Lower seats would help, as would a shorter driver.
These frames are all over the Offroad Classified section here on the Samba all the time.
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Dale M.
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dustymojave
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Thank you Dale! Saved me from doing the same.
This is actually one of the most common frame designs out there.
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KrAzY-BaJa
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MetricMuscle
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| KrAzY-BaJa wrote: |
almost every sand rail you see for sale is this fame 
its also 1 of the unsafest ever  |
.....but, The Dude drives one....... |
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Brian
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| Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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| KrAzY-BaJa wrote: |
almost every sand rail you see for sale is this fame
its also 1 of the unsafest ever |
among the water pumpers and pan buggies
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