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witte Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 2:07 am Post subject: 1937 KDF foto negatives |
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Can this be original?? 5 foto negatives. Maby sombody nows a lot from pictures and dates! allready thanks
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allsidius Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 5:30 am Post subject: |
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The pictures may be very interesting, but the marking on the envelope is puzzling, if not downright false. The Volkswagen, according to sources like Chris Barber, was called the Volkswagen until May 15, 1938. During the groundbreaking ceremony at Fallersleben, AH announced that the car would be sold as the KdF wagen. So, the KdF name was not connected to the VW beetle before that. By the way, it does not really say KdF on the envelope, does it.
Second, the final body as we know it, was not ready as a mock up, untill december 1937, and as a driving car by april / may 1938. That means that the date on the envelope does not correspond either. You should have the negatives scanned and made into positives, there could be some interesting detail there, anyway! _________________ 1973 1303S w sunroof Click to view image
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hopkin  Samba Member

Joined: June 25, 2012 Posts: 2550 Location: Ottawa, Ontario
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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 6:07 am Post subject: |
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Interesting pictures, I made a quick edit for easier viewing. Thanks for posting.
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witte Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 6:25 am Post subject: can you do this 2 alsow |
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Can you alsow do this 2?
and allready thanks for the nice info, Can the make fake negatives?
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hopkin  Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 7:08 am Post subject: |
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No problem:
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hopkin  Samba Member

Joined: June 25, 2012 Posts: 2550 Location: Ottawa, Ontario
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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 7:12 am Post subject: Altered old pictures |
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Familar face in the second picture?
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MDKG Samba Member

Joined: October 16, 2008 Posts: 1089 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 8:12 am Post subject: Re: 1937 KDF foto negatives |
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witte wrote: |
Can this be original?? 5 foto negatives. Maby sombody nows a lot from pictures and dates! allready thanks
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Any more info on where you (are they yours?) got the envelope and the negatives? Could it be that the original photographer had 2 sets of photo's in the envelope which were taken at different times: the ones from the KdF car (in 1938?) and some pics from the "Day of the German police and fire brigade practice" in 1937? I guess that back in those days you could easily do 1 or 2 years with one roll of film in your camera. Very interesting anyhow ! |
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Björn Schewe Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 4:51 am Post subject: |
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How stupid is that? The pictures are dated in 1937 - but the first VW38 cars were build in 1938. The pictures are nice, but it sounds like someone will blame the buyer. |
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mjenner Samba Member

Joined: November 29, 2008 Posts: 268 Location: essex,on,canada
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Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 5:30 am Post subject: |
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i don't see a date on any of the pics- just handwriting on an envelope |
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witte Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 8:35 am Post subject: |
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Indeed now date one the pictures. so evenlope can be made by anybody.
Stil its strange. The pics are myn. I found them in germany! |
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pastellgreen Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2012 Posts: 1133 Location: Germany
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Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 10:49 am Post subject: |
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I don't see any problem. Imagine a old guy back in the 50's or 60's, handling his old souvenirs and things, found his old negatives and remebered himself beeing there "... when was it... ah it was 1937, and what was it... ah KDF Wagen... so it was and I was there... intresting..."
I just want to say, the dates of the envelopes where perhaps written at another time after the war, and and a false date was not a bad intention than rather a poor remembering.
Try to see it from the old person, not from the point of a VW-collector.
I say old person because of the hand writing. This style is definetly from a time before 70's |
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mikeandkirsti Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 11:22 am Post subject: |
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I do not see any contradiction.
The envelope says "Day of the German Police, Practise of fire department 17.1.1937". In NS Germany the day of the German Police was on the 16th and 17th of January 1937. These pictures would have police and the fire department excercising and not people crowing around a KdF-Wagen.
These pictures have nothing to do with a fire department drill, they show the KdF-Wagen in Perlberg, Germany, obviously in 1938.
The pictures from 1937 are not in the envelope, the pictures from 1938 are. I do not think they are fakes, millions of Germans took pictures of the new KdF-Wagens in 1938 and pictures surface all the time and are not that rare. |
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MDKG Samba Member

Joined: October 16, 2008 Posts: 1089 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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mikeandkirsti wrote: |
I do not see any contradiction.
The envelope says "Day of the German Police, Practise of fire department 17.1.1937". In NS Germany the day of the German Police was on the 16th and 17th of January 1937. These pictures would have police and the fire department excercising and not people crowing around a KdF-Wagen.
These pictures have nothing to do with a fire department drill, they show the KdF-Wagen in Perlberg, Germany, obviously in 1938.
The pictures from 1937 are not in the envelope, the pictures from 1938 are. I do not think they are fakes, millions of Germans took pictures of the new KdF-Wagens in 1938 and pictures surface all the time and are not that rare. |
Exactly my point 5 posts ago.... |
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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They are still very cool!!!! _________________ Master Tech at Team Volkswagen
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