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55veedub Samba Member
Joined: May 12, 2008 Posts: 583 Location: North Bay, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 6:05 pm Post subject: 62 shifting troubles, reverse and 2nd |
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Hey all, I spent my morning reading threads trying to find a solid answer but I figure Id just ask.
Ive got a 62 single cab, When driving, shifting from 1st to 2nd, it will grind as if its trying to get into reverse and you have to play a bit to find second.
From a stop. you can put it into reverse by pushing down, move left and back. BUT with no effort if you push it to the right, it will drop into neutral or second...
At times first is hard to find aswell. 3 and 4 are perfect.
What could be my issues? Out of adjustment? Coupling? bushing? _________________ '62 Single Cab
'68 Bug eye Baja.
'69 Volksrod
'70 Canadian standard bug. |
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guatebus Samba Member
Joined: May 12, 2003 Posts: 393 Location: Oakland, CA
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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More details would help. Did this happen all of a sudden or has it always been like this? Did you take something apart and this problem started after you put it back together?
It could be just your shifter reverse lockout plate. Assuming that it's oriented correctly, loosen your shifter bolts and try moving the plate a little to the right and maybe a tad towards the rear.
Another easy thing to check is to make sure that your forward and rear shift couplers are tight and in good condition. Just crawl under the bus and take a look that the set screws are tight and safety wired. Check the condition of the rubber disk in the middle of the rear coupler. _________________ '64 standard microbus
'69 deluxe microbus |
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55veedub Samba Member
Joined: May 12, 2008 Posts: 583 Location: North Bay, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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Actually i have just purchased the Single. Im not sure of what had been done to it.
I was debating on ordering new bushings, coupler, and trans mounts.
Ill try moving the plate and see if that helps.
As well as the 2nd and reverse thing, when driving and slowing, to try and go from 2nd to 1st is a chore to get it to shift into first. _________________ '62 Single Cab
'68 Bug eye Baja.
'69 Volksrod
'70 Canadian standard bug. |
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quartermilecamel Samba Member
Joined: April 16, 2008 Posts: 3929 Location: ohio
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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That was very similiar to my problem. 1st and 2nd were hard to grab. Replaced my lockout plate with a bugpack one(stock replacement ones are good as well), Slid shifter to the right. 1964 bus here. New shifter bracket, plastic bushing, new front shift rod. Not to sure if I want to tweak it anymore. Right now it shifts like Oh My God its Parkay butter mode.
Before, it seemed like the rod beneath was being moved too far twards reverse, when going for 1st or 2nd. Reverse lockout plate helped bunches. _________________ Waiting for santa to drop off funky green. I can wish can't I???? |
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55veedub Samba Member
Joined: May 12, 2008 Posts: 583 Location: North Bay, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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quartermilecamel wrote: |
That was very similiar to my problem. 1st and 2nd were hard to grab. Replaced my lockout plate with a bugpack one(stock replacement ones are good as well), Slid shifter to the right. 1964 bus here. New shifter bracket, plastic bushing, new front shift rod. Not to sure if I want to tweak it anymore. Right now it shifts like Oh My God its Parkay butter mode.
Before, it seemed like the rod beneath was being moved too far twards reverse, when going for 1st or 2nd. Reverse lockout plate helped bunches. |
that sounds exactly the same!
is this the lock out plate you used? ive got the stock shifter http://www.cip1.ca/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=C12%2D5595%2D50
is this the bracket? http://www.cip1.ca/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=VWC%2D111%2D701%2D255%2DB
thanks. _________________ '62 Single Cab
'68 Bug eye Baja.
'69 Volksrod
'70 Canadian standard bug. |
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quartermilecamel Samba Member
Joined: April 16, 2008 Posts: 3929 Location: ohio
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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Yes those are it. I got mine from wolfsburgwest. Also purchased the plastic or nylon bushing, and front shift rod. The stick shift itself I had already purchased from the classifieds from mike wilkerson. ....No more cuss words floating around in the upper atmosphere bouncing off the space shuttle and knocking out everyones satellite radio from me from missed shifts. Also check your shift stick pin. Make sure it doesnt wiggle/turn...as mine did wobble side to side. Also make sure you install the metal spring around the plastic bushing correctly as hazetguy mentions.....the metal spring to bushing goes underneath the bracket, not on the outside. _________________ Waiting for santa to drop off funky green. I can wish can't I???? |
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Eric&Barb Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 24770 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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If new to you this bus is, best to change the gear oil now. After all who knows when last changed or even if it was checked for full (which should be done every other tune up)?? _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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55veedub Samba Member
Joined: May 12, 2008 Posts: 583 Location: North Bay, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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One thing with the shifter that i will check is that the littke ring above the ball is still a circle and not a D.
Yes, i plan to do a full fluid change and tune up. Whats and good oil to run in the RGBs? _________________ '62 Single Cab
'68 Bug eye Baja.
'69 Volksrod
'70 Canadian standard bug. |
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Eric&Barb Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 24770 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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Same as in the center section since the gear oil is shared between the center and RGBs.
Personally use an 85/90 Wt. GL-4 by StaLube. Get the pump with the one gallon bottle of gear oil. Drop the gear oil bottle into a five gallon bucket of hot water an hour before so it pumps way easier. _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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Snoop Bob Samba Member
Joined: May 06, 2003 Posts: 2687 Location: Florida
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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55veedub wrote: |
One thing with the shifter that i will check is that the littke ring above the ball is still a circle and not a D. |
It is supposed to look like a circle. The ones that look like D's are worn from years of rubbing. _________________
BarryL wrote: |
Put your lips onto the little tit with the hole in it inside and make a good seal. You can suck and blow but with a little resistance. It gets better after it's wet. |
EverettB wrote: |
I would be interested in knowing the sizes of the various shafts. |
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55veedub Samba Member
Joined: May 12, 2008 Posts: 583 Location: North Bay, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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Alrighty everyone. UPDATE!
I spent two hours dinking around with the shifter. I think im missing something!!
My front shift rod has nothing supporting the front of it! What goes in the little hole in the front of the shift rod? Theres nothing supporting it!
Also my plastic bushings are really worn!
But what supports the rod and where can i get one?
Thanks!
Mike _________________ '62 Single Cab
'68 Bug eye Baja.
'69 Volksrod
'70 Canadian standard bug. |
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55veedub Samba Member
Joined: May 12, 2008 Posts: 583 Location: North Bay, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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Actually i was just looking at pics in the gallery and came across this.
I actually dont remember a hole in the front of my shift rod. this is how mine is. So there is nothing supporting the rod other than the guide bracket?
Therefore, my problem could just be my guide bracket and bushing. Does this sound right? _________________ '62 Single Cab
'68 Bug eye Baja.
'69 Volksrod
'70 Canadian standard bug. |
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Eric&Barb Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 24770 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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Part in # 21 in diagram is what your bus should have for front support.
Lots more important part info @
http://oacdp.org/5867part.html _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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dmuis Samba Member
Joined: September 01, 2004 Posts: 381 Location: Sunny Alberta, Wild Rose Country.
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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Eric&Barb wrote: |
If new to you this bus is, best to change the gear oil now. |
"Good advice, this is."
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Kehoe Samba Member
Joined: May 11, 2009 Posts: 12 Location: Honolulu, Hawaii
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:43 am Post subject: |
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I just traded my 05 GLI Jetta for a beautiful 58 Single Cab last night and I’m having the same problem with it. The thing in a bitch to find 1,2 and reverse. This was really helpful and I plan on making the repairs talked about in this form. Thanks for the info! I’ll be monitoring the form and post up what I find. _________________ (O8o) =====\x/==== (o8O) |
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