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the.fordhams
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 Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 10:37 am Post subject: Splash pan and brackets colour? |
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Is the splash pan to be bumper colour (silver beige) or to be grey / black or body colour? As for the brackets I though about powder coating them - is there a RAL colour or similar code for this?
Thanks,
Al
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Here's a thread on rear ribbed / pressed bumper brackets and hardware:
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crofty
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| Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 10:38 am Post subject: |
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All the pans I have seen are black, and most of the brackets too.
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campingbox 
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| Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 10:51 am Post subject: |
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Im sure this varied back in the day from day to day but...On 58 and earlier models.....the bumper was painted with the brackets attached the lower color of the body. The splash pans were black and on standards and deluxes the tops were painted to match the lower color of the body. On Kombis and trucks they pans were left all black.
I believe for post 59 models the pans were black and the brackets were gray. |
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Stanagon
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| I bought some used splash pans that had (looked like) original black paint on them. I cleaned 'em up and repainted them and my new (Wolfsburg West) bumper brackets with a flat black. The originals may have been more of a semi-gloss black but I had some flat black on hand so I used that. |
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campingbox
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| Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 11:20 am Post subject: |
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| I think the paint originally used for the pans was the same paint used for the engine tin, front beam, etc, etc. |
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DanM
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| campingbox wrote: |
I believe for post 59 models the pans were black and the brackets were gray. |
i'll agree with that. my "march '60" has black pans and had o.g. gray primer brackets that needed replacement.
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EverettB
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| Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 11:53 am Post subject: |
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Ribbed bumpers:
All the NOS splash pans I have seen are black.
The NOS brackets are grey.
This would make me guess that they painted the brackets but not the pans, although I've seen a bunch of splash pans with original paint overspray all over them so i'll go with campingbox's response.
I used to have some original '57 rear brackets, they were green.
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Bart
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my '66 splash pans were og grey before I repainted them to match the bumpers.
EDIT: Although that may have been overspray.....
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| Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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| I have 4 pair of NOS still in the factory bag 59-67 splash pans and the are all identical, semigloss black on top and grey on the bottom. |
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DB
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Hi Everyone,
If all this good info is correct, I would have really screwed up painting my splash pans and bumper brackets -- good thing I haven't painted them yet! Does anyone have any images from original paint buses (hopefully from a deluxe) that can confirm this information. I have a '60 deluxe in sealing wax red and beige gray and just want to get it (retentive) I mean right. Thanks for any help! I learn something new everyday on this site, and twice on Sundays.
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obus
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npbusguy
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| campingbox wrote: |
Im sure this varied back in the day from day to day but...On 58 and earlier models.....the bumper was painted with the brackets attached the lower color of the body. The splash pans were black and on standards and deluxes the tops were painted to match the lower color of the body. On Kombis and trucks they pans were left all black.
I believe for post 59 models the pans were black and the brackets were gray. |
It is true that the 58 and earlier bumper brackets (front and rear) were painted while attached to the bumper, so your bumper bolts would be painted too, but I don't know about 59 and later buses.
In my research, the splash pans on 57-58 era buses were painted black as seen in these photos of a very original low mile 57 standard bus.
My original splash pans on my 58 deluxe were also black before restoration and will be black when the bus is "finished".
There is a thread in the barndoor forums about splash pan color and it shows that they may have been painted the color of the lower body. Perhaps this is some kind of "Wolfsburg" feature. |
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EverettB
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so on my July 1959 Standard, i should paint the top semi gloss black and the underside gray?
Sounds like that is right? |
That doesn't sound right, all of my original 59-up splash pans are 100% black.
I do have an NOS pair with stickers, they are all the regular grey primer.
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mysamba
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I'm no expert,, but it would make sense to me that the NOS replacement parts from VW would be in primer (gray) and needed to be painted by the body shop if used as a replacements.
Possibly the gray on the bottom and the black on the top were a replacement at some time? and just painted on the top (Show Side) by the paint shop?
The pans installed from the factory probably were painted at the factory black top and bottom for production.
Just my guess on this.
My pans are solid rust like color with no evidence of any paint at all, top or bottom....  |
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gsmueller58
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| Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 3:01 pm Post subject: Splash Pans Color - License plate holes on bumpers |
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Hi Guys,
I've been reading some posts on this issue but it's still not clear for me what the right color is. Mine is a November 62 Standard Microbus (Turkis /Bluewhite) in pretty original condition, except for the exterior, which has sometime been repainted. Should the splash pans be painted completely black or should the upper face match the body color?
Another quick question. Do the bumpers came originally with holes for the license plate? Take into account that Argentina version is like the european, no guards no overrider bow.
Thanks a lot for your help and best regards from Argentina.
Gabriel |
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Dave24
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| Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 3:08 pm Post subject: Re: Splash Pans Color - License plate holes on bumpers |
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Hi Guys,
I've been reading some posts on this issue but it's still not clear for me what the right color is. Mine is a November 62 Standard Microbus (Turkis /Bluewhite) in pretty original condition, except for the exterior, which has sometime been repainted. Should the splash pans be painted completely black or should the upper face match the body color?
Another quick question. Do the bumpers came originally with holes for the license plate? Take into account that Argentina version is like the european, no guards no overrider bow.
Thanks a lot for your help and best regards from Argentina.
Gabriel |
Black. Can't help you on the lic. plt. holes. |
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