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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2023 7:26 pm    Post subject: timing issue Reply with quote

i can't get the timing dialed in on my 1959 bug motor. I've got a vju4br8 dist with the vacuum advance on the outside, i can only turn it so far before it hits the fuel pump. The light stays on when static timing. It runs but has some backfire
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2023 7:40 pm    Post subject: Re: timing issue Reply with quote

If your limited in rotation, then your distributor drive shaft is off a few teeth.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2023 7:43 pm    Post subject: Re: timing issue Reply with quote

Either you have the sparkplug wires on the wrong posts, or the distributor drive cog is indexed incorrectly.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:12 pm    Post subject: Re: timing issue Reply with quote

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The light stays on when static timing.

Sounds like you may have your static timing light connected incorrectly. The light should have one connection at the same coil terminal as the condenser wire, and the other connection to a good ground. When connected this way the light will illuminate when the points open and extinguish when the points close.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2023 3:12 pm    Post subject: Re: timing issue Reply with quote

I'm going to guess that the issue is the distributer cog is off the shaft. How do I check this and remediate? The car runs but misfires on occassion.
If i turn the flywheel i can get the static light to turn off. Wires are correct, and turning it isn't the issue the vacuum advance limits me turning the distributor any farther in either direction clockwise or counter. It does seem to turn a pretty good bit.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2023 12:24 pm    Post subject: Re: timing issue Reply with quote

You could just move the wires around so the canister is free to move a bit more?

Only issue here is if you have a distributor retarded spark on number 3 cylinder.
That only works as it should with the factory distributor drive gear done correctly and number 1 timed with the rotor pointing at the notch on the edge of the distributor.

You could check that with a timing light, comparing results of spark timing on number 1 wire, then number 3 wire and see if timing is different between 1 and 3. Since they would use the same crank pully mark it is easy to do.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2023 6:35 pm    Post subject: Re: timing issue Reply with quote

its got nothing to do with the wires, i can turn it all the way clockwise until the vacuum hits the fuel pump on the drivers side or counter clockwise until it hits the belt.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2023 7:00 pm    Post subject: Re: timing issue Reply with quote

msnow34 wrote:
its got nothing to do with the wires, i can turn it all the way clockwise until the vacuum hits the fuel pump on the drivers side or counter clockwise until it hits the belt.


Your not understanding. If you have the wires shifted one terminal, it will put the vacuum can in the wrong spot, so in order to time it, you're trying to turn it so far the can hits the pump.

You may need to shift all the wires one terminal around.
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