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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:24 am    Post subject: Pict 2 question Reply with quote

This set up was on a 65 engine. Both pieces are plugged. Originally would the carb be connected to the in take? Should I leave it this way or connect them? Also I have a pict1 and a plain intake manifold would I be better off just using that setup? TIA.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 10:45 am    Post subject: Re: Pict 2 question Reply with quote

Are you talking about the vacuum ports? The one on the carb is for the distributor, the one on the manifold is for something else. Is it a 3 piece manifold?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 10:49 am    Post subject: Re: Pict 2 question Reply with quote

Autostick manifold.

Those double return springs on the carb are creative, I wonder if they have F'd up the throttle shaft bushings?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 11:01 am    Post subject: Re: Pict 2 question Reply with quote

Auto stick! Thanks for that info. So I can go back to a regular IM.
I never noticed the double springs! A rebuild is on the list but does it make sense to go with a pict1 with a regular manifold?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 7:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Pict 2 question Reply with quote

What are these manifold and carbs being mounted on VW wise? An autostick transmission bug or a manual 4 speed bug?

The 30-2 carb is my last favorite 30 series carb. Be careful with these parts if they are off an autostick bug. The autostick 30-2 carb is different than the manual transmission bug. They have different ported vacuum signals.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 12:09 am    Post subject: Re: Pict 2 question Reply with quote

Going on a 65 engine. 009 distributor, 4 speed transmission.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 5:15 am    Post subject: Re: Pict 2 question Reply with quote

Too bad about the distributor. Poor match for either carb. Put the stock carb back on and find a matching distributor.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 6:43 am    Post subject: Re: Pict 2 question Reply with quote

Im not sure what the stock carb would be. The PO had this setup with the auto stick manifold and the the 2.
Thanks for the info about the 009.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 8:30 am    Post subject: Re: Pict 2 question Reply with quote

At one time I saw a listing on this site for carbs and distributors that came on all the years of Beetles. Looked for it the other day but couldn’t find it again. Maybe someone else knows where it is.

My understanding is the 009 came on the industrial engines that ran at a fixed load and speed. The advance curve is better suited to that application.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 10:25 am    Post subject: Re: Pict 2 question Reply with quote

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At one time I saw a listing on this site for carbs and distributors that came on all the years of Beetles. Looked for it the other day but couldn’t find it again. Maybe someone else knows where it is.

My understanding is the 009 came on the industrial engines that ran at a fixed load and speed. The advance curve is better suited to that application.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 10:28 am    Post subject: Re: Pict 2 question Reply with quote

I'm running a 30 Pict 2 with 205T distributor, and it works perfect on my 1641cc single port.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 4:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Pict 2 question Reply with quote

For a single port use a 30 PICT 1 and a 113905205T distributor. A new BOCAR carburetor is going to be better than any rebuilt one you can find considering they are all new components.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 8:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Pict 2 question Reply with quote

I'd go with a [email protected] original restored German Solex 30-1 carb with a base flange number of 105-1 over any "new" aftermarket carb. They are the best series 30 carbs German Solex made for single port engines.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 5:37 am    Post subject: Re: Pict 2 question Reply with quote

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At one time I saw a listing on this site for carbs and distributors that came on all the years of Beetles. Looked for it the other day but couldn’t find it again. Maybe someone else knows where it is.

My understanding is the 009 came on the industrial engines that ran at a fixed load and speed. The advance curve is better suited to that application.


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That’s the one!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 6:06 am    Post subject: Re: Pict 2 question Reply with quote

oprn wrote:
At one time I saw a listing on this site for carbs and distributors that came on all the years of Beetles. Looked for it the other day but couldn’t find it again. Maybe someone else knows where it is.

My understanding is the 009 came on the industrial engines that ran at a fixed load and speed. The advance curve is better suited to that application.


The 009 distributors mechanically advance on engine RPM vs. engine load like the SVA distributors. They work ok matched to a stock 30 series carb. I'd always prefer the SVA distributor because of the immediate response to the throttle input. As soon as the throttle plate in the carb opens, the ported vacuum moves the vacuum canister advancing the timing.
The 009's are a good choice when running dual carbs that don't provide enough ported vacuum to work a vacuum canister. I ran a 009 matched to dual Kadrons back in the 1980's on a high compression 1835. The engine ran great and I did some 14's on a quarter mile track.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 11:45 am    Post subject: Re: Pict 2 question Reply with quote

Exactly! On a constant throttle application (1/4 mile racing) where light throttle running is rare the 009 works. But like you say vacuum distributors give better drivability.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 12:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Pict 2 question Reply with quote

oprn wrote:
At one time I saw a listing on this site for carbs and distributors that came on all the years of Beetles. Looked for it the other day but couldn’t find it again. Maybe someone else knows where it is.

My understanding is the 009 came on the industrial engines that ran at a fixed load and speed. The advance curve is better suited to that application.


It did come on the industrial engine but it had a VW number attached to it. 009 is Bosch's nomenclature. The carburetor was also specific to those engines.

There's noting wrong with a 009 on specific engines. Usually, it's when the vacuum port isn't available. A 009 came on an Oval I bought. It had a non stock performance engine on it with dual carburetors. I runs very well even at low RPM.
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