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far rider  Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:24 am Post subject: Pict 2 question |
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This set up was on a 65 engine. Both pieces are plugged. Originally would the carb be connected to the in take? Should I leave it this way or connect them? Also I have a pict1 and a plain intake manifold would I be better off just using that setup? TIA.
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FarmerBill  Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 10:45 am Post subject: Re: Pict 2 question |
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| Are you talking about the vacuum ports? The one on the carb is for the distributor, the one on the manifold is for something else. Is it a 3 piece manifold? |
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busdaddy Samba Member

Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 53196 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 10:49 am Post subject: Re: Pict 2 question |
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Autostick manifold.
Those double return springs on the carb are creative, I wonder if they have F'd up the throttle shaft bushings? _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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far rider  Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 11:01 am Post subject: Re: Pict 2 question |
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Auto stick! Thanks for that info. So I can go back to a regular IM.
I never noticed the double springs! A rebuild is on the list but does it make sense to go with a pict1 with a regular manifold? _________________ 67 zenith blue sunroof
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist

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Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 7:31 pm Post subject: Re: Pict 2 question |
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What are these manifold and carbs being mounted on VW wise? An autostick transmission bug or a manual 4 speed bug?
The 30-2 carb is my last favorite 30 series carb. Be careful with these parts if they are off an autostick bug. The autostick 30-2 carb is different than the manual transmission bug. They have different ported vacuum signals. _________________ Contact me at [email protected]
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far rider  Samba Member

Joined: August 30, 2005 Posts: 1013 Location: Rutland, VT
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Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 12:09 am Post subject: Re: Pict 2 question |
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Going on a 65 engine. 009 distributor, 4 speed transmission. _________________ 67 zenith blue sunroof
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oprn Samba Member

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Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 5:15 am Post subject: Re: Pict 2 question |
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Too bad about the distributor. Poor match for either carb. Put the stock carb back on and find a matching distributor. _________________ Our cars get old, we get old but driving an old VW never gets old! |
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far rider  Samba Member

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Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 6:43 am Post subject: Re: Pict 2 question |
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Im not sure what the stock carb would be. The PO had this setup with the auto stick manifold and the the 2.
Thanks for the info about the 009. _________________ 67 zenith blue sunroof
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oprn Samba Member

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Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 8:30 am Post subject: Re: Pict 2 question |
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At one time I saw a listing on this site for carbs and distributors that came on all the years of Beetles. Looked for it the other day but couldn’t find it again. Maybe someone else knows where it is.
My understanding is the 009 came on the industrial engines that ran at a fixed load and speed. The advance curve is better suited to that application. _________________ Our cars get old, we get old but driving an old VW never gets old! |
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Big Bull Shooter Samba Member

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Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 10:25 am Post subject: Re: Pict 2 question |
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| oprn wrote: |
At one time I saw a listing on this site for carbs and distributors that came on all the years of Beetles. Looked for it the other day but couldn’t find it again. Maybe someone else knows where it is.
My understanding is the 009 came on the industrial engines that ran at a fixed load and speed. The advance curve is better suited to that application. |
This one?
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/glutamodo/vw/30PICTs.jpg _________________ Where would this hobby be if no one shipped parts.
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Big Bull Shooter Samba Member

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Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 10:28 am Post subject: Re: Pict 2 question |
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I'm running a 30 Pict 2 with 205T distributor, and it works perfect on my 1641cc single port. _________________ Where would this hobby be if no one shipped parts.
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heimlich  VWNOS.com

Joined: November 20, 2016 Posts: 7573 Location: Houston, Texas
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist

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Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 8:07 pm Post subject: Re: Pict 2 question |
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I'd go with a [email protected] original restored German Solex 30-1 carb with a base flange number of 105-1 over any "new" aftermarket carb. They are the best series 30 carbs German Solex made for single port engines.
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oprn Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 5:37 am Post subject: Re: Pict 2 question |
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| oprn wrote: |
At one time I saw a listing on this site for carbs and distributors that came on all the years of Beetles. Looked for it the other day but couldn’t find it again. Maybe someone else knows where it is.
My understanding is the 009 came on the industrial engines that ran at a fixed load and speed. The advance curve is better suited to that application. |
This one?
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/glutamodo/vw/30PICTs.jpg |
That’s the one! _________________ Our cars get old, we get old but driving an old VW never gets old! |
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist

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Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 6:06 am Post subject: Re: Pict 2 question |
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| oprn wrote: |
At one time I saw a listing on this site for carbs and distributors that came on all the years of Beetles. Looked for it the other day but couldn’t find it again. Maybe someone else knows where it is.
My understanding is the 009 came on the industrial engines that ran at a fixed load and speed. The advance curve is better suited to that application. |
The 009 distributors mechanically advance on engine RPM vs. engine load like the SVA distributors. They work ok matched to a stock 30 series carb. I'd always prefer the SVA distributor because of the immediate response to the throttle input. As soon as the throttle plate in the carb opens, the ported vacuum moves the vacuum canister advancing the timing.
The 009's are a good choice when running dual carbs that don't provide enough ported vacuum to work a vacuum canister. I ran a 009 matched to dual Kadrons back in the 1980's on a high compression 1835. The engine ran great and I did some 14's on a quarter mile track. _________________ Contact me at [email protected]
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oprn Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 11:45 am Post subject: Re: Pict 2 question |
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Exactly! On a constant throttle application (1/4 mile racing) where light throttle running is rare the 009 works. But like you say vacuum distributors give better drivability. _________________ Our cars get old, we get old but driving an old VW never gets old! |
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heimlich  VWNOS.com

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Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 12:38 pm Post subject: Re: Pict 2 question |
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| oprn wrote: |
At one time I saw a listing on this site for carbs and distributors that came on all the years of Beetles. Looked for it the other day but couldn’t find it again. Maybe someone else knows where it is.
My understanding is the 009 came on the industrial engines that ran at a fixed load and speed. The advance curve is better suited to that application. |
It did come on the industrial engine but it had a VW number attached to it. 009 is Bosch's nomenclature. The carburetor was also specific to those engines.
There's noting wrong with a 009 on specific engines. Usually, it's when the vacuum port isn't available. A 009 came on an Oval I bought. It had a non stock performance engine on it with dual carburetors. I runs very well even at low RPM. _________________ www.vwnos.com [email protected]
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