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Pops67Beetle Samba Member

Joined: January 03, 2021 Posts: 9 Location: Queens, NY
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Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 5:43 am Post subject: Silly clutch question |
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I have a 67 beetle stock everything with a new clutch disk and a new clutch pedal (the original broke). Since I put the engine back in I get a high pitched squeal when the clutch is fully depressed. I have adjusted and readjusted the clutch and it has about 3/8 of free play. I can’t figure out what I am doing wrong. Any ideas? I really appreciate the help.
67 beetle sedan
1500
Stock trans, original cable, new pedal disk and throw out bearing. _________________ When I close my eyes I’m a little kid riding in the cubby..... Priceless! |
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iowegian Samba Curmudgeon
Joined: February 16, 2005 Posts: 8618 Location: East coast of Iowa
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Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:42 am Post subject: Re: Silly clutch question |
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Bad throw-out bearing. |
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Airstream65 Samba Member
Joined: January 28, 2019 Posts: 114 Location: Tulsa,Ok
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Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:14 am Post subject: Re: Silly clutch question |
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Cusser Samba Member

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mukluk Samba Member

Joined: October 18, 2012 Posts: 5304 Location: Clyde, TX
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Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 9:59 am Post subject: Re: Silly clutch question |
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Probably a defective throwout bearing as noted, but since you said the squeal doesn't occur until the pedal is fully depressed, before you tear back into it you might want to increase your freeplay first to see if that stops the squeal; you may just be overcompressing the pressure plate. Your 3/8" freeplay is just under the minimum spec laid out by VW.
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Zundfolge1432  Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:52 am Post subject: Re: Silly clutch question |
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If it is in fact the TO bearing and you are somewhat talented then it is entirely possible to take it apart clean and repack the bearing. I don’t know what a new aftermarket bearing costs now but I do have more confidence in a genuine German bearing.
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rcroane  Samba Member
Joined: January 03, 2013 Posts: 1741 Location: Springfield, Virginia
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Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:23 am Post subject: Re: Silly clutch question |
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mukluk wrote: |
Probably a defective throwout bearing as noted, but since you said the squeal doesn't occur until the pedal is fully depressed, before you tear back into it you might want to increase your freeplay first to see if that stops the squeal; you may just be overcompressing the pressure plate. Your 3/8" freeplay is just under the minimum spec laid out by VW.
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This seems like a good suggestion since I'm assuming the squeal wasn't present before the new clutch was installed. _________________ '65 Sunroof Bug |
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Pops67Beetle Samba Member

Joined: January 03, 2021 Posts: 9 Location: Queens, NY
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Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:40 pm Post subject: Re: Silly clutch question |
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Thank you all for the information. I will readjust the free play and hope for the best. The squeal wasn’t there when my Dad garaged it in ‘86. I’ll post an update when it’s dry enough outside to get greasy. Thanks again and Happy New Year to you all. _________________ When I close my eyes I’m a little kid riding in the cubby..... Priceless! |
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rcroane  Samba Member
Joined: January 03, 2013 Posts: 1741 Location: Springfield, Virginia
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Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 2:20 pm Post subject: Re: Silly clutch question |
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Pops67Beetle wrote: |
Thank you all for the information. I will readjust the free play and hope for the best. The squeal wasn’t there when my Dad garaged it in ‘86. I’ll post an update when it’s dry enough outside to get greasy. Thanks again and Happy New Year to you all. |
I would squeak too if I hadn't moved in 34 years!  _________________ '65 Sunroof Bug |
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ashman40 Samba Member

Joined: February 16, 2007 Posts: 13758 Location: North Florida, USA
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Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 8:23 pm Post subject: Re: Silly clutch question |
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Did you only replace the clutch disc? Not the pressure plate and TO bearing? Typically they are replaced as a set. This is to avoid having to remove the engine just months later because one of the old parts failed.
You should also consider resurfacing the flywheel so that both sides of the clutch disc have a fresh/clean friction surface to work against. Just make sure the machine shop knows what they are doing. The stock VW flywheel needs two surfaces resurfaced to maintain the proper distance between the clutch surface and the mounting surface. Unlike some cars which mount the PP to the same flywheel surface that the clutch disc rests on, ACVW flywheels have a ledge for the PP to mount to. _________________ AshMan40
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'75 Beetle 1200LS (RHD Japan model) {junked due to frame rot}
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Pops67Beetle Samba Member

Joined: January 03, 2021 Posts: 9 Location: Queens, NY
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:22 am Post subject: Re: Silly clutch question |
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Hi All. Thanks again for the awesome information. I readjusted the freeplay and the squeal went away. I am going to pull the engine in the early spring to replace the front engine seal and will get the pressure plate and flywheel surfaces machined. I found a garage that is very old school and knows quite a bit about the old Beetles and has the skill to make things right. _________________ When I close my eyes I’m a little kid riding in the cubby..... Priceless! |
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