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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 12:21 am    Post subject: Barndoor Coachbuilders #3: Unknown & other ones. Reply with quote

During my research for Kohlruss & Schreiner pictures, I also came across some other interesting posts and pictures. Some may be Kohlruss or Schreiner buses, but as I am not 100% sure which ones they really are, I posted them in here – maybe you can help me…

My other related topics:
Coachbuilder: Hans Kohlruss
Coachbuilder: Karl Schreiner


Unknown coachbuilder – maybe from Germany?
I found a lot of photos of the following buses. These buses also have quite significant roof windows above the driver cabin – pretty similar to Kohlruss and Schreiner’s buses but i can not say who made them. Also note the wide safari windows on the roof! What really catches the eye is the deluxe trim at the front – it replaced the VW-Logo. Most of these buses also do have a special paint job at the position of the dogleg (above all four wheels).
I found several photos and can’t say who made these buses – and neither if they were made in Germany or in Austria. Of course it is possible that the buses were made by different coachbuilders. On the pictures they do have some plates from Germany, some from Austria.
Maybe anyone of you does know more? Very Happy
But at first, just take a look at the images:

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Is this one a survivor? But as you can see it has normal samba-windows. Has anyone got pics of the front side of this bus?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 12:21 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Coachbuilders #3: Unknown & other ones. Reply with quote

Karosseriebau Weingartshofer from Vienna
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'54 barndoor panel, converted by "Karosseriebau Weingartshofer" in Vienna, Austria. Picture taken in 1955. Check out the glass dome!

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 12:21 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Coachbuilders #3: Unknown & other ones. Reply with quote

Pictures I can not assign

Is it a Kohlruss, Schreiner or any other bus? Maybe you can help me….

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Note the corner window of this bus:
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What about the bus in the first pic here?
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A postcard from “Steinerwirt – Zell am See, Austria” – showing 2 nice buses:
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How about them? Kohlruss, Schreiner, ….?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 12:22 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Coachbuilders #3: Unknown & other ones. Reply with quote

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alo,
here is another one,it must be a '52 or '53 before it left for a trip of six months ,they left from maastricht(holland) and went to dominion(new zealand).
grtz to all.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 12:23 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Coachbuilders #3: Unknown & other ones. Reply with quote

Is this one with the white roof even a barndoor bus? Can’t recognize. It was taken at Oktoberfest in Munich – 1958.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 12:23 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Coachbuilders #3: Unknown & other ones. Reply with quote

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BDM transport vehicle for VIP's. Looks like a single cab that received some coach work. You can barely make out a badge on the dog leg:

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 3:05 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Coachbuilders #3: Unknown & other ones. Reply with quote

AustroBus wrote:

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Is this one a survivor? But as you can see it has normal samba-windows. Has anyone got pics of the front side of this bus?
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This one is not coachbuilt; it is just a common garden barndoor deluxe.
Yes, it is still around.

See
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=195541
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=222253

Thanks for putting the threads together. Most excellent.
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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2016 3:21 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Coachbuilders #3: Unknown & other ones. Reply with quote

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Blue Baron just shared this pic in the "Vintage pictures"-thread.

Now I also place it here and will add some information about it.

After discovering this pic on facebook some days ago, i was quite curious about the location. And after some time i finally found the significant church in the background.

It turned out to be in Telfs, a village in Tirol, Austria. And this picture shows how it looks today:
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Additionally here is some information from oldspeed79 about the licence plate: "the license plate "AB..." stands for Bavaria/Germany after war, 1948 –1956 (US-occupation)"

I remembered this bus from another pic and now i finally found it: It even has the same licence plate! Shocked

But this location seems to be in Bavaria, Germany:

Now it just would be interesting who made this bus! Question

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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2016 9:49 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Coachbuilders #3: Unknown & other ones. Reply with quote

since you are interested in coach builders. These are not barndoor, but they are still cool
http://www.thesamba.com/vw//forum/album_search.php?search_keywords=frickinger
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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2016 12:36 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Coachbuilders #3: Unknown & other ones. Reply with quote

mandraks wrote:
since you are interested in coach builders. These are not barndoor, but they are still cool
http://www.thesamba.com/vw//forum/album_search.php?search_keywords=frickinger


Yes, this one is also quite interesting - thank you Wink
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2016 10:20 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Coachbuilders #3: Unknown & other ones. Reply with quote

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Here is another picture - it appears as if this bus was a vehicle that has been used for a bus travel company. Sadly the pic has not got the best resolution so i can't read the lettering on the doors.

It looks similar to many other buses with german licence plates in this thread.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 8:31 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Coachbuilders #3: Unknown & other ones. Reply with quote

Hello,
thanks for the thread with the cool photos Very Happy

What's about the Police Barndoor with 13 windows? I cannot find the photo, it's a 54, 55 white barndoor with the sign "Politie", somewhere in the vintage photo thread. It also has corner windows, don't know who built it...

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 1:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Coachbuilders #3: Unknown & other ones. Reply with quote

56samba wrote:
Hello,
thanks for the thread with the cool photos Very Happy

What's about the Police Barndoor with 13 windows? I cannot find the photo, it's a 54, 55 white barndoor with the sign "Politie", somewhere in the vintage photo thread. It also has corner windows, don't know who built it...

Jan


Hello Jan,

i am glad that you like this thread but sadly i can't remember the police barndoor bus which you are describing Sad
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 1:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Coachbuilders #3: Unknown & other ones. Reply with quote

Hola,

I found it in the Internet, but bad quality. Note the corner windows. It was my computers background and I had to see it for a few weeks until I realized that something is different with this barndoor Very Happy

https://www.flickr.com/photos/wouterduijndam/6860426418/sizes/l/in/[email protected]/

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:31 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Coachbuilders #3: Unknown & other ones. Reply with quote

Wow, thats really interesting!

Where did this bus serve? The Netherlands?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 2:11 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Coachbuilders #3: Unknown & other ones. Reply with quote

Sure! Dutch police sign and Dutch number plates, the bus is from 54 as the description tells. Until 51 you could see the car's location, but they changed so I have no idea where they were used Surprised

Did you notice the link? There were at least two of these buses, one with the plate "RK 21 07" and one with "RK 21 05". There are minor differences such as the mirrors, perhaps the color?!

Did somebody offer shortened mirror arms for the spot light? I just know about German made by Hagus but always thought they came with tiny integrated mirrors? Confused

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:55 am    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Coachbuilders #3: Unknown & other ones. Reply with quote

I just found some nice coachbuilded barndoors. I think these are not Kohlruss ?

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Coachbuilders #3: Unknown & other ones. Reply with quote

I realise this is far fetched but hey! stranger things have happened---is it possible to source where all those different kind of windows may have come from and see who would have bought them?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Coachbuilders #3: Unknown & other ones. Reply with quote

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I just found some nice coachbuilded barndoors. I think these are not Kohlruss ?

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maybe a company vehicle?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Barndoor Coachbuilders #3: Unknown & other ones. Reply with quote

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Eisenwolf wrote:
I just found some nice coachbuilded barndoors. I think these are not Kohlruss ?

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maybe a company vehicle?


yes, you're right - i also suggested that the bus was in service for Knirps - a company famous for its umbrellas. Smile
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