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cpc12 Samba Member

Joined: July 30, 2013 Posts: 95 Location: Pawling NY
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Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:31 pm Post subject: sloppy shifter |
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Im buying a bus tomorrow. Found it on here. Thanks !!
The shifter seems a bit sloppy, gear pattern is not real solid, kinda have to search for the slot.
Is this adjustable ? Is there a replaceable insert, never thought about how to fix this before..
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webwalker Samba Member

Joined: January 26, 2006 Posts: 2803 Location: Mount Laurel, NJ
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Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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Your first purchase, even before you buy a tie dye shirt to go with the bus is the Bentley service manual. Without it, you're pretty much screwed.
The first place to look for the slop is at the front of the shifter assembly beneath. Remove the pan that protects the pedals, and you'll see where the shifter connects to the shift rod. There is a bushing that nose of this shift rod rides in. Usually, the bushing has disintegrated. $5 fitting.
This is only usually the problem. There are others, but this is where to go first.
Also, you'll now be replacing all of your fuel lines.
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borninabus  Samba R&D Dept.

Joined: May 18, 2006 Posts: 4713 Location: Arizona Highways
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Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 1:14 am Post subject: Re: sloppy shifter |
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Yes, it's adjustable.
There are several replaceable "inserts" in the shift linkage that differ depending on year.
Time to start thinking about how to fix things unless you want to pay a mechanic to use simple reasoning skills for you.
There are many resources at your disposal...
Best advice you'll get in this thread:
The Bentley procedure for adjusting the shifter is absurdly incomprehensible.
Some of the new VW branded shift coupler cages are not square and will not work regardless of shift lever adjustment.
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cpc12 Samba Member

Joined: July 30, 2013 Posts: 95 Location: Pawling NY
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Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:02 am Post subject: |
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So sorry I did it ..
Asked a question with giving enough info ..
Im buying a 79 Transporter 4 speed with a 1600 DP
thanks again |
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aopisa Samba Member

Joined: August 14, 2009 Posts: 605 Location: Vermont
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Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:51 am Post subject: |
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First check the bracket that attaches the shifter to the floor inside the bus. It may just be loose, mine was. I believe later models have a bracket with slots in it which make it adjustable. I adjusted mine and tightened it up. Now I have a nice tight shift pattern. It may also be the stop plate underneath the bracket.
Even so, you still might need a new bushing, but it doesn't hurt to start with the real simpe no brainier stuff.  _________________ 1977 Westy 2.0L FI
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Kiptere Samba Member

Joined: February 13, 2013 Posts: 419 Location: Houston
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Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 6:31 am Post subject: |
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The first thing I do with any "new" VW I get is install a racing shifter. Shorter throw. More precision. Reverse lockout. _________________ 62 Bug
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aeromech Samba Member

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Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 6:53 am Post subject: |
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There are 3 or 4 things that could cause this.
1) As mentioned, the front bushing on the shift rod
2) The shift coupler at the front of the transmission
3) Having the reverse lock out plate in backwards
4) A broken bracket in the transmission nose cone
5) Bad plastic ball on end of hockey stick
Bad front bushing
Broken bracket
Bad ball
Shift coupler
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webwalker Samba Member

Joined: January 26, 2006 Posts: 2803 Location: Mount Laurel, NJ
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Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:02 am Post subject: |
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cpc12 wrote: |
So sorry I did it ..
Asked a question with giving enough info ..
Im buying a 79 Transporter 4 speed with a 1600 DP
thanks again |
Run this by me again. Where are you? Where is the bus?
A 1600 in that model year was only available in non-USA markets. Is this a USA market bus?
Are you mechanically inclined?
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cpc12 Samba Member

Joined: July 30, 2013 Posts: 95 Location: Pawling NY
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Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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not mechanically inclined yet ...
Its a US bus had a pancake and now i has the standard bug engine dual port " upright "
Bus is in NY |
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DirtRhodes Samba Member
Joined: June 02, 2016 Posts: 5 Location: Texas
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 10:22 pm Post subject: Re: sloppy shifter |
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Resurrecting this thread! Thanks for the incredibly useful photos areomech.
I lost 3rd and 4th gear. Hoping my problem is somewhere between the gear shifter and nose cone. Useful info. I've been searching the forum before starting my own thread.
If anyone knows a one stop shop to source parts, I can't find part #'s for the front nylon bushing/shifter coupling rubber inserts/selector link/selector link ball joint/nose cone gasket. Found some stuff at Busdepot, but not everything.
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