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dixoncj Samba Member

Joined: June 17, 2004 Posts: 1085 Location: Charleston, SC
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 12:18 pm Post subject: OBD2 Scan tool - Recommendation? |
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Considering a bluetooth module that I can use with my iphone. Anyone have any suggs for this or a more standard one? The port is under the steering column in my 03 EVC so it'd need to be fairly low profile. |
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jjvincent Samba Member
Joined: January 11, 2016 Posts: 1422 Location: Bethlehem, PA
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:19 pm Post subject: Re: OBD2 Scan tool - Recommendation? |
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I suggest moving the OBD2 port if you are going to run that unit all of the time. I have already seen one port get broke because it's almost impossible to not hit it with your leg. |
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d-9 Samba Member
Joined: February 09, 2016 Posts: 105 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 4:05 am Post subject: Re: OBD2 Scan tool - Recommendation? |
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These ones are pretty slimline, I've used one with android in my car and they dont take up much space:
https://www.amazon.com/iSaddle-Bluetooth-CAN-BUS-D...rds=elm237
Worth checking compatibility with both your eurovan and your phone thou, dont think the early eurovans were odb2. |
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dixoncj Samba Member

Joined: June 17, 2004 Posts: 1085 Location: Charleston, SC
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 6:04 am Post subject: Re: OBD2 Scan tool - Recommendation? |
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yeah - i've been thinking about one of these that's iphone compatible and then using the torque app. Seems the least expensive option by far. |
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jjvincent Samba Member
Joined: January 11, 2016 Posts: 1422 Location: Bethlehem, PA
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 6:45 am Post subject: Re: OBD2 Scan tool - Recommendation? |
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Just remember to do your research on those bluetooth OBD2 things. Many are fake and end up not working as well as you think they should. A friend of mine bought one and it wouldn't work on his Golf. I tried it on my EV and Jetta and it didn't work at all. Yet it worked on my Fiat and my neighbors Surburban. I know he found out it was fake because he took it apart and found some site that showed the differences. So it was $10 down the drain and a week of frustration. |
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d-9 Samba Member
Joined: February 09, 2016 Posts: 105 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 7:24 am Post subject: Re: OBD2 Scan tool - Recommendation? |
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jjvincent wrote: |
I tried it on my EV and Jetta and it didn't work at all. Yet it worked on my Fiat and my neighbors Surburban. |
Thats what I mean by check compatibility, I'm not so familar with the dates for the US market, but in europe, quite late golf4 and eurovan's are not ODB2 compatible. A friend had a 1999 golf 1.8t, which turned out to not be odb2 compatible, and only the very very late eurovans here are odb2. It may not be fault of the bluetooth dongle, but just incompatibility with that age VW. |
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dixoncj Samba Member

Joined: June 17, 2004 Posts: 1085 Location: Charleston, SC
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 7:28 am Post subject: Re: OBD2 Scan tool - Recommendation? |
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d-9 wrote: |
jjvincent wrote: |
I tried it on my EV and Jetta and it didn't work at all. Yet it worked on my Fiat and my neighbors Surburban. |
Thats what I mean by check compatibility, I'm not so familar with the dates for the US market, but in europe, quite late golf4 and eurovan's are not ODB2 compatible. A friend had a 1999 golf 1.8t, which turned out to not be odb2 compatible, and only the very very late eurovans here are odb2. It may not be fault of the bluetooth dongle, but just incompatibility with that age VW. |
mine's an 03. |
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jjvincent Samba Member
Joined: January 11, 2016 Posts: 1422 Location: Bethlehem, PA
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 7:49 am Post subject: Re: OBD2 Scan tool - Recommendation? |
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All cars sold in the US from 1996 are OBD2 compatible. It's required by law. One of the main reasons why many European cars were last sold here in 1995 was because they were going to have to be OBD2 compatible and the manufacturer did not want to go through with that. Pretty much why many cars were stopped being sold here in 1994 because passenger side airbags were required.
The thing is, there are some different standards for OBD2 protocol and some of the bluetooth readers do not support them all, thus the reason why the cheap ones can become a problem for some cars. |
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Abscate  Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 23807 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 8:03 am Post subject: Re: OBD2 Scan tool - Recommendation? |
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Happy with my AUTEL 800 series. Its paid for itself charging old ladies $25 per scan, the $50 to clear codes I put in.
I charge double if your name rhymes with 'kills' and you live in CT _________________ πΊπΈ πΊπΈ πΊπΈ πΊπΈ πΊπΈ πΊπΈ πΊπΈ π π π |
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d-9 Samba Member
Joined: February 09, 2016 Posts: 105 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 9:41 am Post subject: Re: OBD2 Scan tool - Recommendation? |
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jjvincent wrote: |
All cars sold in the US from 1996 are OBD2 compatible. It's required by law. One of the main reasons why many European cars were last sold here in 1995 was because they were going to have to be OBD2 compatible and the manufacturer did not want to go through with that. Pretty much why many cars were stopped being sold here in 1994 because passenger side airbags were required.
The thing is, there are some different standards for OBD2 protocol and some of the bluetooth readers do not support them all, thus the reason why the cheap ones can become a problem for some cars. |
Useful info, thanks It took a longer to arrive for cars in europe (eodb ~= odb2) and a LOT longer to arrive for vans, most T5s arent odb2 until about 2005. Oddly some T4s are in 01-03. |
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jjvincent Samba Member
Joined: January 11, 2016 Posts: 1422 Location: Bethlehem, PA
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 1:16 pm Post subject: Re: OBD2 Scan tool - Recommendation? |
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My guess is whatever VW was sold here in the US that was sold in Europe, got OBD2 first. Then it just trickled down afterwards. |
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d-9 Samba Member
Joined: February 09, 2016 Posts: 105 Location: UK
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Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 2:33 am Post subject: Re: OBD2 Scan tool - Recommendation? |
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jjvincent wrote: |
My guess is whatever VW was sold here in the US that was sold in Europe, got OBD2 first. Then it just trickled down afterwards. |
Very good point, would explain why the petrol T4s got it and the diesel ones didnt. |
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Double0_Van Samba Member
Joined: March 25, 2009 Posts: 14
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Abscate  Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 23807 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 5:38 pm Post subject: Re: OBD2 Scan tool - Recommendation? |
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Is OBD Eleven someone who didn't have Roman Numerals in school or is it a real thing? _________________ πΊπΈ πΊπΈ πΊπΈ πΊπΈ πΊπΈ πΊπΈ πΊπΈ π π π |
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Double0_Van Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 6:57 pm Post subject: Re: OBD2 Scan tool - Recommendation? |
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Abscate wrote: |
Is OBD Eleven someone who didn't have Roman Numerals in school or is it a real thing? |
A real thing, and I think that the name is a play on the Roman Numerals. The Eurovan isn't specifically listed, but maybe it would work since there are others of the same vintage? |
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Zeddy Samba Member
Joined: January 26, 2016 Posts: 27
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 11:40 pm Post subject: Re: OBD2 Scan tool - Recommendation? |
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May wish to consider a ScanGuage II
http://www.scangauge.com/products/scangaugeii
As well as OBD II codes, can use it also as to run as extra useful gauges when running car down the road, notably engine temperature, and transmission temperature.
For the transmission temperature you just need to type in a code once only to add it into the device for Eurovan, then can use it forever thereafter without having to re-enter programming code. |
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markcm2 Samba Member

Joined: September 02, 2015 Posts: 505 Location: Bellingham, Washington
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 9:56 am Post subject: Re: OBD2 Scan tool - Recommendation? |
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I may have missed it in a previous post but...
Be aware that in my experience iOS must use a WiFi version of the OBD2 dongle because Apple doesn't allow access to the bluetooth stack; unless you are jailbroke in which there is an app from cydia which will enable the use ob BT OBD2.
Android works with both BT and WiFi.
I have bought a few BT and WiFi adapters from amazon for about $15 or less and used Prime so if there were any quality issues I'd have an easy return although all 3 units I've purchased work great.
Another suggestion, you might want to look for a unit with power standby, the ones I got were active at all times due to the OBD port always being energized. I haven't had any power draw issues but I'd feel better if the dongle would sense the vehicle is off and go into standby.
I use Dash Command for my iOS devices and Torque on my Android; both are great app's although I prefer Torque. These are amazing app's, granted VAGCOM can do a few things these cant and I wouldn't go without VAGCOM but when it comes to basic troubleshooting I've found these low cost adapters are easier to use than VACCOM. For example, diagnosing a bad MAF, datalogging a few pulls... very easy. Setting up virtual gauge panels, not even possible in VAGCOM. |
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mkscott2 Samba Member

Joined: February 16, 2017 Posts: 90 Location: Cincinnati
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Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 9:51 am Post subject: Re: OBD2 Scan tool - Recommendation? |
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Is anyone successfully using the Torque app to monitor their transmission temp in real-time? Or are we better off sticking with the more costly Scanguage? Just trying to consider all of my options here. |
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eurovank Samba Member
Joined: May 12, 2016 Posts: 30 Location: Bay Area
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Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 8:58 pm Post subject: Re: OBD2 Scan tool - Recommendation? |
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I pulled the main OBDII port inside, and plugged a Y-splitter to it - https://www.amazon.com/Docooler-16Pin-Splitter-Extension-Female/dp/B000TMCX72
One end of the Y splitter I placed back where the original spot was for my scan gauge, the other end I left inside and connected a bluetooth module for use with TorquePro on Android. |
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mkscott2 Samba Member

Joined: February 16, 2017 Posts: 90 Location: Cincinnati
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 5:17 am Post subject: Re: OBD2 Scan tool - Recommendation? |
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eurovank- cool idea! Does that mean that you are able to pit the Scanguage against the TorquePro? Are you able to pull transmission temp on the TorquePro app? |
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