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Onceler Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2025 12:00 pm Post subject: Whirlpool direct drive washers |
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Any of you still running one of these and are familiar with fixing them?
My tub wonโt spin sometimes during the spin cycle. I replaced the clutch a month ago and it seemed ok but now itโs doing it again. Any thoughts? _________________ 1972 Karmann Ghia |
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Cusser Samba Member

Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 33478 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2025 1:04 pm Post subject: Re: Whirlpool direct drive washers |
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| Onceler wrote: |
| My tub wonโt spin sometimes during the spin cycle. |
On some washers, won't go into spin dry if the water pump has removed most/all of the water. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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janerick3 Samba Member

Joined: June 04, 2006 Posts: 1903 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2025 6:33 pm Post subject: Re: Whirlpool direct drive washers |
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On the 1st generation front-loaders (before ~2007), I became intimately familiar with the F5 fault.
The plastic shocks (4) that support the bottom of the outer tub have a tendency to break with heavy, unbalanced loads. When this happens, the inner tub rarely becomes balanced enough to start the high-speed spin. When both front shocks break, the outer tub will move around enough to break the wires leading to the fill sensor, located at the bottom front of the outer tub.
Replacement shocks are not that expensive and the front shocks are not hard to replace. Be sure to wear gloves, as the steel frame the shocks lock into is not deburred. _________________ Thanks,
Jan K. |
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zerotofifty Samba Member
Joined: December 27, 2003 Posts: 4240
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Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2025 6:48 pm Post subject: Re: Whirlpool direct drive washers |
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Buy an old top load machine fix any defects and you will be good for the next 30 years. New appliances are junk. If it has a chip or board in it, run away. Mine is near 40 years old, runs fine, did replace the old water valve in it, it was like about 20 bucks. and the timer wore out, NOS part was like 30 bucks. she just runs and runs, cleans well, cleans fast. no locking door either, so I can add clothes during the cycle without having to restart.
Old machines can be had for little money, they are built to last, like the old VW Bug, ease of service, reliable. _________________ Sorry About That Chief.
Give Peace a Chance.
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OldSchoolVW's  Samba Member

Joined: July 03, 2020 Posts: 1593 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2025 8:57 pm Post subject: Re: Whirlpool direct drive washers |
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Buy a basic Speed Queen and end your misery.
Whirlpools aren't what they used to be 30 or 40 years ago. It seems they and most other brands have decided to put their manufacturing $$ into ridiculous bells and whistles instead of durable components and simple, reliable designs. _________________ Tom
"Following distance is proportional to IQ."
"It's okay to think."
"If you don't do it this year, you'll be one year older when you do." Warren Miller
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'69 Beetle Sunroof
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 24434 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2025 2:22 am Post subject: Re: Whirlpool direct drive washers |
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You have to stay commercial to go the low obsolescence route. My Amana turned into a toaster after I couldnโt buy the gasket between tub and motor after 20 years. I had replaced motor about 3 years before
You also have to sign up to do all the work yourself or have a contract. Pay as you go will break the bank. _________________ ๐บ๐ธ ๐บ๐ธ ๐บ๐ธ ๐บ๐ธ ๐บ๐ธ ๐บ๐ธ ๐บ๐ธ ๐ ๐ ๐ |
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mrinnovation1 Samba Member
Joined: June 11, 2025 Posts: 282 Location: IL
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Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2025 5:14 am Post subject: Re: Whirlpool direct drive washers |
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[quote="OldSchoolVW's"]
| Onceler wrote: |
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Buy a basic Speed Queen and end your misery.
Ditto! |
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iowegian  Samba Curmudgeon

Joined: February 16, 2005 Posts: 9985 Location: Somewhere between Dubuque and Keokuk
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Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2025 7:16 pm Post subject: Re: Whirlpool direct drive washers |
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| zerotofifty wrote: |
Buy an old top load machine fix any defects and you will be good for the next 30 years. New appliances are junk. If it has a chip or board in it, run away. Mine is near 40 years old, runs fine, did replace the old water valve in it, it was like about 20 bucks. and the timer wore out, NOS part was like 30 bucks. she just runs and runs, cleans well, cleans fast. no locking door either, so I can add clothes during the cycle without having to restart.
Old machines can be had for little money, they are built to last, like the old VW Bug, ease of service, reliable. |
True.
Our "new" Maytag washer is 41 years old and has needed ZERO repairs.
Our dryer is older-------it was built in 1961 and we bought it used in 1965.
(30 years ago I had to replace the timer--I was disappointed that it failed so early in its life))
Both of these machines are genuine Maytags made in Newton, Iowa by stubborn Dutchmen. |
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Xevin  Samba Member
Joined: January 08, 2014 Posts: 9049
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Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2025 7:55 pm Post subject: Re: Whirlpool direct drive washers |
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| OldSchoolVW's wrote: |
Buy a basic Speed Queen and end your misery. |
I had a chance to grab one of those for free sitting on the curb in West Hollywood back in the 80s. Looked to good to be true so I kept on driving
We have a high-end Electrolux set front loader for the last 15 years. Itโs so meh. Iโm surprised itโs still working. The old top loader early 90s Kenmore (whom ever made it) in our other home was fantastic. Everything just seemed cleaner and dried faster. I think a lot of the eco friendly โthings or incentives โ made the modern washer and dryerโs not great or long lasting. _________________ Keep on Busin'
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GFY's Xevin and VW_Jimbo! |
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Damn that Xevin...  |
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I respect Xevin and he's a turd |
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My God! Xevin and I 100% agree |
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OldSchoolVW's  Samba Member

Joined: July 03, 2020 Posts: 1593 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2025 10:18 pm Post subject: Re: Whirlpool direct drive washers |
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| Xevin wrote: |
| OldSchoolVW's wrote: |
| Buy a basic Speed Queen and end your misery. |
I had a chance to grab one of those for free sitting on the curb in West Hollywood back in the 80s. Looked too good to be true so I kept on driving |
Ah, the foolish things we did in our youth.
As well built as they are today, they were built like a tank back then. If you'd have fixed up that beast you'd still be doing laundry with it.
Yes, those old Kenmore washers and dryers were great. Simple, well built and reliable.
Honestly, do we really need anything more than:
Water temp - cold, warm, hot
Load size - small, medium, large
Agitation - gentle, normal _________________ Tom
"Following distance is proportional to IQ."
"It's okay to think."
"If you don't do it this year, you'll be one year older when you do." Warren Miller
'63 Beetle Sedan
'69 Beetle Sunroof
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'73 Type 3 Fastback |
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 24434 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2025 2:44 am Post subject: Re: Whirlpool direct drive washers |
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With seven ladies in the house and 6 animals our machines got heavy use. Women are demanding and wonโt leave the house with crap all over them like me. Add in two sports a season and you really pound the machine more then the bachelor two pairs of underwear a week.
How did Wall Street genius Eddie Lempert destroy the Kenmore brand with 50% retail share and raid the pension fund in a few short years? Bad story _________________ ๐บ๐ธ ๐บ๐ธ ๐บ๐ธ ๐บ๐ธ ๐บ๐ธ ๐บ๐ธ ๐บ๐ธ ๐ ๐ ๐ |
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Cusser Samba Member

Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 33478 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2025 6:53 am Post subject: Re: Whirlpool direct drive washers |
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I bought my 1981-made Maytag dryer in 1988. I've replaced the heating element, glides, belt and belt idler, and last week replaced a 5" wire with crimped ring on one end and a crimped 14" female connector on the other going to the heat coil assembly. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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KTPhil  Samba Member

Joined: April 06, 2006 Posts: 36356 Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2025 9:03 am Post subject: Re: Whirlpool direct drive washers |
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I miss my old top loading Maytag in the 1980s. Two failures, both repairable. A rust pinhole in the tub, patched. And a belt idler pully whose squeak drove me nuts until I replaced it. Moved and no longer have it. I expect its still washing clothes for somebody else. _________________ Current Fleet:
- '71 Fastback
- '69 Westfalia
Retired:
- '67 Beetle
- '65 Beetle (x2)
- '65 Bus
- '71 Squareback |
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 24434 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2025 4:34 am Post subject: Re: Whirlpool direct drive washers |
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Buy a basic Speed Queen and end your misery.
Ditto! |
The relief she provided was only temporary, and it was more a rental situation _________________ ๐บ๐ธ ๐บ๐ธ ๐บ๐ธ ๐บ๐ธ ๐บ๐ธ ๐บ๐ธ ๐บ๐ธ ๐ ๐ ๐ |
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