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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 5:53 am    Post subject: 69 Kombi Camper is haunted by Janis Joplin Reply with quote

We just purchased our first VW Camper and she is a pistol. She has fought us every step of the way since we went to look at her. I tried to talk my husband out of buying her, pointing to her rusty bits. Too late, he was in love.... so now I am afraid we have been spanked. The sliding door stopped shutting on the ride home, then she also kept stalling out then flooded. The radio needed the fuse replaced when we did that sparked it blew cheap radio, then lights went wanky. that was all the first day. Yesterday my Hippy went out to start Janis and cant turn ignition switch, steering wheel is locked. I bought that big fat Bently book and a circuit probe. Im feeling so over whelmed by Janis, I have no idea how to work on her. I have watched all these you tube videos that told us how to fix the sliding door, which actually works now. Installed new radio, found another fuse blown, wiggled fuses and lights started working. Now I am wondering if wiring could have something to do with steering wheel lock. My Hippy puffed some grafite in the lock and that did nothing. It was super cold yesterday and I thought maybe kinda froze but I doubt I could be so lucky. Janis Joplin is a rock star and I dont know how I'm going to keep her up at this pace. We stopped by a body shop to get an idea about how much fixing rust and paint cost. I about passed out, I had no idea painting a vehicle cost as much as a house! If it were up to me I would stick a for sale sign on that ole girl right now. Any words of wisdom on the locked steering/key wont turn.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 6:16 am    Post subject: Re: 69 Kombi Camper is haunted by Janis Joplin Reply with quote

for a frozen (with cold) lock, heat your key for 10 sec with a cig lighter and quickly install- count to 10 and try-

repeat as necessary-

might try to rock steering while trying the switch.

check samba "cars for sale" to get an idea of these cars value.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 7:02 am    Post subject: Re: 69 Kombi Camper is haunted by Janis Joplin Reply with quote

You need to cut the old girl a break. Wink After decades of previous owners hacks, poor repairs and lack of general maintenance, these old VW's need to be gone through mechanically to get them back to spec.

Rust can be a deal breaker though. As you found out, cutting out rusty metal and replacing it can be shockingly expensive if you pay a pro to do it.

Can you post some pictures of this bus?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 7:55 am    Post subject: Re: 69 Kombi Camper is haunted by Janis Joplin Reply with quote

Yup, wiring sucks. Not going to lie to you on that one. From my experience, it regularly is poor grounds. Whatever you do, don't rush the wiring and go ripping it all out. More than likely, a lot of it is correct and can be very helpful. As for the key lock, the cigarette lighter idea is pretty great. Wear a glove. lol And if all else fails, it isn't too difficult to get the wheel off this (no airbags to deal with) and get it all unlocked and figured out.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 8:23 am    Post subject: Re: 69 Kombi Camper is haunted by Janis Joplin Reply with quote

I agree with trying to turn the steering wheel back and forth while trying the key. also is the key in the ignition the right way? ( hell, IS there a right way? I know my 73 likes it when the oblong bit of the key head points to the driver, and not the dash)
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:15 am    Post subject: Re: 69 Kombi Camper is haunted by Janis Joplin Reply with quote

tryed jiggling the wheel while wiggling key in both directions. Heated key with lighter, repeat wiggle jiggle. have posted pics
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:26 am    Post subject: Re: 69 Kombi Camper is haunted by Janis Joplin Reply with quote

does the key only slide in one way? didja try flipping the key over? (if it don't fit, don't force it.)
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:10 pm    Post subject: Re: 69 Kombi Camper is haunted by Janis Joplin Reply with quote

flipped and jiggled
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:36 pm    Post subject: Re: 69 Kombi Camper is haunted by Janis Joplin Reply with quote

Words of wisdom? You done already messed up and bought a bus Wink Laughing

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 1:01 pm    Post subject: Re: 69 Kombi Camper is haunted by Janis Joplin Reply with quote

You may have to do more than wiggle the steering wheel to unlock the ignition switch. The steering wheel lock prevents the steering wheel from being moved while the ignition is off. When the steering lock has pressure on it you cannot turn the key. You need to take the pressure off the lock by moving and holding the steering wheel in one direction or the other. This is a common occurrence.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 1:31 pm    Post subject: Re: 69 Kombi Camper is haunted by Janis Joplin Reply with quote

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Yup, wiring sucks. Not going to lie to you on that one. From my experience, it regularly is poor grounds. Whatever you do, don't rush the wiring and go ripping it all out. More than likely, a lot of it is correct and can be very helpful.

^This. It would behoove you to disconnect the battery, and go through all the wiring connections cleaning contacts and putting the ol' dielectric grease on them. Start with the fuses.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 2:05 pm    Post subject: Re: 69 Kombi Camper is haunted by Janis Joplin Reply with quote

Disconnect battery and pull that speaker wire out of the fuse box. Trace it first, to find out what it is powering. That's pretty much telling you previous owners were butchers, which isn't uncommon.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 3:27 pm    Post subject: Re: 69 Kombi Camper is haunted by Janis Joplin Reply with quote

Well I looked at that speaker wire and seems to be that it is attached to the back of fuse box someway. It is super cold so I just snapped a couple pics to see if u see any thing else. Still no progress on key turning.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 3:36 pm    Post subject: Re: 69 Kombi Camper is haunted by Janis Joplin Reply with quote

Fuses 1,5,6 are not seated well with the end of the fuse in the puka.

Spin all the fuses to make sure they are making good contact in their holders.

Which is the speaker wire you are referring to? A speaker wire may pass around or behind a fuse box, but there is no reason why it would be attached to the fuse box. Is it a speaker wire, or the power supply wire to the stereo?

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 6:44 pm    Post subject: Re: 69 Kombi Camper is haunted by Janis Joplin Reply with quote

Don't put any more graphite in the ignition lock. Too much electrical in there, and graphite conducts electricity, and may cause a short.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 6:44 pm    Post subject: Re: 69 Kombi Camper is haunted by Janis Joplin Reply with quote

Do you have a second ignition key? If so try it out.
Does the key you have unlock the door? If so you can get the key code off the lock and get a new fresh key. The old one may just be too worn.
Don't get a new key cut from old as you are making a copy of on old worn key.

As to the fuses screw rotating them and buy new ones. They look pretty hammered.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:14 pm    Post subject: Re: 69 Kombi Camper is haunted by Janis Joplin Reply with quote

you just bought the bus and already you have fixed the sliding door, the lights, and the stereo. good on ya...hang in there
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 4:06 am    Post subject: Re: 69 Kombi Camper is haunted by Janis Joplin Reply with quote

Oh Lord...won't you buy me ....a VW Van...I mean Bus...
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:35 am    Post subject: Re: 69 Kombi Camper is haunted by Janis Joplin Reply with quote

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Oh Lord...won't you buy me ....a VW Van...I mean Bus...


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:08 am    Post subject: Re: 69 Kombi Camper is haunted by Janis Joplin Reply with quote

well the wiggle jiggle technique finally worked! Janis Joplin has thrown me a bone! the key turned!!!!
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