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tilstad
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 Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:44 pm Post subject: The official Chinese Diesel Heater thread (Webasto Knockoff) |
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Just saw these heaters, they seem to come in both diesel and gasoline variants for about the same price.
https://m.ebay.com/itm/Air-Heater-5KW-12V-24V-Simi...&rt=nc
An alternative to a propex perhaps? Pros&cons? |
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shagginwagon83 
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| Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:48 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone tried these $179 webasto heater knockoff's? |
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Only 179$! What's the worst that could happen?
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danfromsyr
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| Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:30 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone tried these $179 webasto heater knockoff's? |
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be carefule when they list the fuel as gas.
it is ONLY a gasoline heater if its listed as BENZINE
otherwise gas is a translated word for fuel and they mean diesel.
there aren't any $200 gasoline heaters on the market yet.
but the diesel ones are very frugal and can have a separate 2gal tank easily last a weekend.. though they are more electrical hungry than a propex. and the fumes during the start/stop of diesel can bother some
just buyer beware.. but they do make nice heat for a bus/bug without heat..
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skills@eurocarsplus
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| Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:16 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone tried these $179 Webasto heater knockoffs? |
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100.00 in shipping and a photo of the unit with flames all around it, seems legit 
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shagginwagon83
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| Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:19 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone tried these $179 Webasto heater knockoffs? |
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| skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
| 100.00 in shipping and a photo of the unit with flames all around it, seems legit |
Didn't even realize this.
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ALIKA T3
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| Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:21 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone tried these $179 Webasto heater knockoffs? |
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People have been using them for a while in France and reported greatly about them on the forum, they`re made in Eastern Europe ( if they are these exact ones) , impressive quality for the price.
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tilstad
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| Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:04 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone tried these $179 Webasto heater knockoffs? |
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Are any of them gasoline Alika?
This one on amazon claims gasoline, as they make you choose between 2 models; diesel or gasoline.
A little more this one, but still far less than a webasto.
https://www.amazon.com/2kw-Diesel-Gasoline-Parking...&psc=1
I think I would like to compare these to a buddy heater and the like. Which are far from safe to begin with. |
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vanis13
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| Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:22 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone tried these $179 Webasto heater knockoffs? |
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I have an gasoline Espar and love it. got a 'deal' at $1500. if I didn't have that, I'd be getting one of these.
The Espar has high altitude add-ons which if you are over like 6k feet really make a difference.
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jimf909
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| Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:43 am Post subject: Re: Anyone tried these $179 webasto heater knockoff's? |
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| dobryan wrote: |
| shagginwagon83 wrote: |
| Only 179$! What's the worst that could happen? |
You die in your sleep or burn up. |
Good thing it’s not serious.
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ALIKA T3
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| Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 12:08 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone tried these $179 Webasto heater knockoffs? |
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| tilstad wrote: |
Are any of them gasoline Alika?
This one on amazon claims gasoline, as they make you choose between 2 models; diesel or gasoline.
A little more this one, but still far less than a webasto.
https://www.amazon.com/2kw-Diesel-Gasoline-Parking...&psc=1
I think I would like to compare these to a buddy heater and the like. Which are far from safe to begin with. |
I`m sure both energies are available.
Retrospectively, I found the company who makes the ones I was thinking, and they look different. The ones here on ebay might be chinese, look at the silver label, I spot some Mandarin or something unreadable not roman alphabet.
These are the Planar and Binar heaters from AutoTerm
http://en.autoterm.ru/
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Cobra88
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| Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:11 am Post subject: Re: Anyone tried these $179 Webasto heater knockoffs? |
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Don't Laugh too hard guys
You will probably find that most of the "Branded" heaters come from the same factory these days.
Regards
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Tobias Duncan
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| Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 7:04 am Post subject: Re: Anyone tried these $179 Webasto heater knockoffs? |
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Don't Laugh too hard guys
You will probably find that most of the "Branded" heaters come from the same factory these days.
Regards
Rick |
Almost certainly true. I have a knockoff MPPT solar charge controller that clearly came from the same factory as the branded one.
Works great however it feels similar to downloading first run movies for free off the internet. Someone is getting screwed. |
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| Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 7:12 am Post subject: Re: Anyone tried these $179 Webasto heater knockoffs? |
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| Webasto states they are made in Germany but all the components could very well be made in China. |
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AZ Landshaper
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| Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:23 am Post subject: Re: Anyone tried these $179 Webasto heater knockoffs? |
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When you really read the ad it reads like any scammy response to a CL listing. Sketchy. Pay with a segure credit card only.
I by you van quik.
Eye by u van for cash mony today. New technoloi leev me so no can tak in person only threw email and I sned Mr Tatum with chek from frend. No worry two much mony you keep extra for fun with frends and party. Let me no quik. Have only small time to make by for you van. 
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candyman
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| Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:25 am Post subject: Re: Anyone tried these $179 Webasto heater knockoffs? |
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| Tobias Duncan wrote: |
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Don't Laugh too hard guys
You will probably find that most of the "Branded" heaters come from the same factory these days.
Regards
Rick |
Almost certainly true. I have a knockoff MPPT solar charge controller that clearly came from the same factory as the branded one.
Works great however it feels similar to downloading first run movies for free off the internet. Someone is getting screwed. |
Care to share the mppt controller link? |
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Paulbeard
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| Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 11:45 am Post subject: Re: Anyone tried these $179 Webasto heater knockoffs? |
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| Tobias Duncan wrote: |
Almost certainly true. I have a knockoff MPPT solar charge controller that clearly came from the same factory as the branded one.
Works great however it feels similar to downloading first run movies for free off the internet. Someone is getting screwed. |
After JudoJeff's misadventures with a cheap controller, I bought one from Morning Star, made in Taiwan. Last thing anyone needs is a cheap component that could burn your rig up.
I would worry that the knockoffs were ones that failed some part of the QC process but were "good enough" for the bargain brand.
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AZ Landshaper
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| Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:06 pm Post subject: Re: Anyone tried these $179 Webasto heater knockoffs? |
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I think its safe to say they prob fell off the back of a truck.
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