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PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 8:10 am    Post subject: Eurovan Climatronic (E87) Upgrade? Reply with quote

Has anyone out there upgraded from the standard "dial-type" air conditioning control to the "climatronic" type control in a Eurovan?

I.e. from:

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 4:35 am    Post subject: Re: Eurovan Climatronic (E87) Upgrade? Reply with quote

I've never seen that done, it sounds like you would need a ton of technical reference stuff to marry that into the ECU though.

I bought my EV with manual AC specifically to avoid that btw!!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 5:42 am    Post subject: Re: Eurovan Climatronic (E87) Upgrade? Reply with quote

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I've never seen that done, it sounds like you would need a ton of technical reference stuff to marry that into the ECU though.

I bought my EV with manual AC specifically to avoid that btw!!


Everything I have read so far suggests that this will not be simple...
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 8:35 am    Post subject: Re: Eurovan Climatronic (E87) Upgrade? Reply with quote

Is anyone else annoyed by the fact that there's no option available allowing you to enable the dash and foot vents at the same time?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 9:05 am    Post subject: Re: Eurovan Climatronic (E87) Upgrade? Reply with quote

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Is anyone else annoyed by the fact that there's no option available allowing you to enable the dash and foot vents at the same time?
Actually, I've never even thought of anything when it comes to the manual system after 14 years of ownership. It's done what I've always asked it to do.

As for sticking in an automatic system, I'd look through the wiring diagram first. Then when you figure that out, pull the parts out of the doaner van you have.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 9:46 am    Post subject: Re: Eurovan Climatronic (E87) Upgrade? Reply with quote

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Is anyone else annoyed by the fact that there's no option available allowing you to enable the dash and foot vents at the same time?


No, but fuel for my yacht is up at least 3% this year. I guess I can save it by not tipping someone.

(some FW sarcasm of course)

If i need the AC on the EV, I want it on the dash vents and no where else. It does have a dreamy powerful AC with that variable displacement compressor.

..and if you set the dial in between there is a spot where you can blow both dash and foot vents on my 2002, at least
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 10:44 am    Post subject: Re: Eurovan Climatronic (E87) Upgrade? Reply with quote

I'm not as annoyed with the AC, but when it's chilly out I would like to have warm air on my feet and chest at the same time.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:05 am    Post subject: Re: Eurovan Climatronic (E87) Upgrade? Reply with quote

Go buy a T2 Bus and drive that for the winter. In addition to freezing for about 90 minutes before any heat comes out, you'll need an ice scraper for the inside.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:12 am    Post subject: Re: Eurovan Climatronic (E87) Upgrade? Reply with quote

I've owned seven Transporters; at least one of each from T1 to T4. I know a thing or two about lousy climate controls, but this issue seems to be an omission that I assume has been rectified in the T5 or T6
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 2:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Eurovan Climatronic (E87) Upgrade? Reply with quote

You can just put the knob in the 4 o'clock position.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 3:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Eurovan Climatronic (E87) Upgrade? Reply with quote

jjvincent wrote:
You can just put the knob in the 4 o'clock position.


Does that change with timezone?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 1:58 am    Post subject: Re: Eurovan Climatronic (E87) Upgrade? Reply with quote

A couple of people have retrofitted climate in Europe, hardest part is sourcing the parts. Wiring is fairly simple and plugs into the fuseboard, all the diagrams are available from the vw site. Dash needs to come out and the heater box needs replacing.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 9:03 am    Post subject: Re: Eurovan Climatronic (E87) Upgrade? Reply with quote

If I were to go through the hassle and expense of this swap, I'd also want to add the rear controls and second AC evaporator.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 4:00 am    Post subject: Re: Eurovan Climatronic (E87) Upgrade? Reply with quote

Abscate wrote:
jjvincent wrote:
You can just put the knob in the 4 o'clock position.


Does that change with timezone?


That's not the problem. Each Spring there too much air coming out at my feet and in the fall it's too much at my face. For some reason, it's not a problem in Arizona.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 4:21 am    Post subject: Re: Eurovan Climatronic (E87) Upgrade? Reply with quote

You have to adjust it halfway through Indiana, too....what up with that??
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 7:29 am    Post subject: Re: Eurovan Climatronic (E87) Upgrade? Reply with quote

There's a reason why Jonah Ryan has my vote:

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