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vintage fiberglass Samba Member
Joined: January 23, 2006 Posts: 485 Location: Reading, Pa
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Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:30 am Post subject: split beetle convertible doors? |
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I am trying to understand the difference between early oval doors and split convertible doors. I hear conflicting info. Here is a picture of an early convertible door from the samba. Using this door as the subject. is this a split beetle convertible door (like for a 1950 to 1952)? or is it newer and why?
I am also curious to know what is the different between like a 1954 convertible body and a split convertible body? |
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sled Samba Member
Joined: February 16, 2005 Posts: 6179
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Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:37 am Post subject: Re: split beetle convertible doors? |
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vintage fiberglass wrote: |
is this a split beetle convertible door (like for a 1950 to 1952)? or is it newer and why?
I am also curious to know what is the different between like a 1954 convertible body and a split convertible body? |
that door is not split. A LOT of details are different... handle locations, regulator mounting, window channel mounting, lack of vent wing channel, door check strap, entire inner pressing shape..to mention a few. split doors are nothing like zwitter and later doors, and later doors are a ton of work to convert correctly.
difference between a 54 vert body and a split body? well aside from all of the obvious difference between a 54 sedan and a split sedan? _________________ drive your split. |
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vintage fiberglass Samba Member
Joined: January 23, 2006 Posts: 485 Location: Reading, Pa
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Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:14 am Post subject: Re: split beetle convertible doors? |
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Thank you so much! I had no intentions of discrediting the door i pictured. I just wanted to understand the differences. Does anyone have a picture of a real split beetle convertible door to post?
My other question was simply this. If you needed a donor car to fix a very rough split convertible what would you use? I know a split beetle would work for a lot of things. But the convertibles had reinforcements up front under the dash? and in the quarter panel areas? So maybe a 1955 and earlier convertible? Just asking. |
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sled Samba Member
Joined: February 16, 2005 Posts: 6179
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Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:30 am Post subject: Re: split beetle convertible doors? |
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here you can see the substantial differences of a split door.
as far as say those front wheel well reinforcements, they may be similar in a post split bug but remember that from early 51 through split production there were crotch coolers and the reinforcements were shaped to accommodate. pre-crotch cooler panels are surely different. _________________ drive your split. |
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Terry Gaudet Samba Member
Joined: March 11, 2004 Posts: 399 Location: New Brunswick, Canada
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Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 2:36 pm Post subject: Re: split beetle convertible doors? |
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Thank for the clarification. I am the one who has the first pictured doors listed here on the Samba. I was told they were split doors but I guess that is not the case.
I have since updated the ad. So these would be Zwitter/Oval vert doors? _________________ Terry Gaudet
1950 Beetle Standard
1955 Canadian Custom
1956 Kombi w/SO23 kit
1965 Kombi walkthrough
1965 Double Cab |
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peter schepens Samba Member
Joined: April 17, 2003 Posts: 1014 Location: belgium Caesars camp
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Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:16 am Post subject: Re: split beetle convertible doors? |
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sled wrote: |
here you can see the substantial differences of a split door.
as far as say those front wheel well reinforcements, they may be similar in a post split bug but remember that from early 51 through split production there were crotch coolers and the reinforcements were shaped to accommodate. pre-crotch cooler panels are surely different. |
This door is a Hebmuller door. I wonder where you got that from?
Peter. _________________ Zelensis, glassfibre body made in Belgium , disigned and built on a VW platform About 25 body's built.
Hebmuller info wanted for http://www.hebmueller-registry.com/home.html |
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Terry Gaudet Samba Member
Joined: March 11, 2004 Posts: 399 Location: New Brunswick, Canada
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Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 3:23 pm Post subject: Re: split beetle convertible doors? |
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May I ask what year the grey primed door at the top of this tread fits. Just need to know if someone contacts me to buy them. Thanks. _________________ Terry Gaudet
1950 Beetle Standard
1955 Canadian Custom
1956 Kombi w/SO23 kit
1965 Kombi walkthrough
1965 Double Cab |
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Mr. OGPaint Samba Member
Joined: September 24, 2010 Posts: 823 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:02 pm Post subject: Re: split beetle convertible doors? |
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Terry Gaudet wrote: |
May I ask what year the grey primed door at the top of this tread fits. Just need to know if someone contacts me to buy them. Thanks. |
Looks correct for zwitter convertible and oval convertible thru end of 1955 model year _________________ https://instagram.com/mr.ogpaint
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Patrick Hall |
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Porsche904 Samba Member
Joined: March 14, 2014 Posts: 192
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Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 4:17 pm Post subject: Re: split beetle convertible doors? |
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Terry Gaudet wrote: |
May I ask what year the grey primed door at the top of this tread fits. Just need to know if someone contacts me to buy them. Thanks. |
...fits Oct52-July55 convertible |
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Terry Gaudet Samba Member
Joined: March 11, 2004 Posts: 399 Location: New Brunswick, Canada
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:56 am Post subject: Re: split beetle convertible doors? |
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Thanks for the feedback everyone. I have also adjusted the price on these doors. _________________ Terry Gaudet
1950 Beetle Standard
1955 Canadian Custom
1956 Kombi w/SO23 kit
1965 Kombi walkthrough
1965 Double Cab |
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bally Samba Member
Joined: April 29, 2006 Posts: 1182 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 4:47 am Post subject: Re: split beetle convertible doors? |
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If you need to repair a Split Kabriolet (or sedan) door you could do a lot worse than buying the repair panels form Mika Virtanen - he has produced the door bottom, door skin bottom and bracing for just this repair:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=489466
Dave |
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