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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 2:31 am    Post subject: What went wrong? 61 dead on freeway. Reply with quote

Unloaded a bunch of items from my April 61 deluxe yesterday. Nice to have the arm chair in the living room. It has been since mid September since I started or drove it, when I drove it south from Washington. The bus has just been parked by the barn. I wanted to get a tall ladder, and the 9 foot hwe rack on the 15 is the ticket. Didnít unload the garage stereo (with eight track player) and speaker wires.

On the way to Home Depot there was a bit of stuttering or hesitation on the freeway. I thought it odd since that was not usual. And only about 130 miles since filling the tank. Pulled reserve Anyway. Seemed to stop the hesitation.
On the way back, with ladder on rack, I pushed reserve back in anyway. Didnít seem to affect anything. A few miles later, right before my exit, the hesitation came back. In fact, the engine shut off. I coasted onto the shoulder into the shade of a eucalyptus tree. I smelled something. Smoke? Electrical? Oil temp was 200 F shortly before it stalled. Was cruising about 60-65. 1600sp with big nut tranny. Upper seventies out.
Greg opened the engine lid. No engine smoke. Engine is not hot, looks normal. I looked at the fuses, nothing odd. Looked under the dash. Didnít see anything odd, except clutter on the tray. And actually the wiring is not pristine.
Honestly, I hadnít looked at the wiring since the nineties. Some PO did put some hackage under there. But honestly, it worked, and Iíd put many miles on the bus without issues. Just not much recently. Felt around. Are there any loose wires? Possibly the headlight switch red wire wAs warm. The white with black stripes wire was cool. one of the ignition switch terminals was warm. I could see which one, itís a little tight under there.

Starter turned with key, but the engine did not catch. found a test light in my toolbox, the right most fuse was hot, but with key on no other fuse was hot. Hm. Iirc the second fuse should be hot with key on. Asked Greg to check for hot at coil with ignition on. Noticed that the dash lights sometimes did not come on with key on. And smelled some electrical smell with key on, so shut key off.

What did we do to get home?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 2:52 am    Post subject: Re: What went wrong? 61 dead on freeway. Reply with quote

Clara,

seems like your ignition switch died... Sad

But that's just a remote guess from across the pond.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 5:43 am    Post subject: Re: What went wrong? 61 dead on freeway. Reply with quote

is this a riddle? Smile

In my case I found that the contact switch tends to develop an eroded pit at the contact point as can be seen here (this is a ghia switch)

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It can be easily repaired with epoxy glue.

however I don't see a clear relation between this and a hesitating engine.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 7:15 am    Post subject: Re: What went wrong? 61 dead on freeway. Reply with quote

Clara, Are you moving from Washington?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 8:01 am    Post subject: Re: What went wrong? 61 dead on freeway. Reply with quote

Fuel, air and spark are the three things an engine needs to run. Spark is the most frequent culprit.

Did you hotwire the bus and drive it home?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 8:57 am    Post subject: Re: What went wrong? 61 dead on freeway. Reply with quote

just a hunch but I'm going to guess you ran a wire from the battery to the coil since power to the coil was no good?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:05 am    Post subject: Re: What went wrong? 61 dead on freeway. Reply with quote

iamdonquixote wrote:
just a hunch but I'm going to guess you ran a wire from the battery to the coil since power to the coil was no good?
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Run the wire from a tail or the tag light and you can turn it off with the light switch....
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:37 am    Post subject: Re: What went wrong? 61 dead on freeway. Reply with quote

ToolBox wrote:
iamdonquixote wrote:
just a hunch but I'm going to guess you ran a wire from the battery to the coil since power to the coil was no good?
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Run the wire from a tail or the tag light and you can turn it off with the light switch....


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unfortunately, also how to steal a vw...
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 11:37 am    Post subject: Re: What went wrong? 61 dead on freeway. Reply with quote

By pass the ignition switch.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 2:09 pm    Post subject: Re: What went wrong? 61 dead on freeway. Reply with quote

Propably the speaker wires did help...
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 2:10 pm    Post subject: Re: What went wrong? 61 dead on freeway. Reply with quote

WTF is a freeway?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:01 pm    Post subject: Re: What went wrong? 61 dead on freeway. Reply with quote

Yes, moving to California.

And yes itís a riddle. Smile

It did seem like the ignition switch died, so I ran a speaker wire from the battery to the coil. Using the taillight would have been a good idea, it if I have to do it again Iíll keep that in mind.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 7:42 pm    Post subject: Re: What went wrong? 61 dead on freeway. Reply with quote

StockNazi wrote:
WTF is a freeway?


Itís a road paid for by others.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:12 am    Post subject: Re: What went wrong? 61 dead on freeway. Reply with quote

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WTF is a freeway?


Itís a road paid for by others.
Smile

Expressway here in the south.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:37 am    Post subject: Re: What went wrong? 61 dead on freeway. Reply with quote

"What went wrong? 61 dead on freeway."

Clara's title to this thread kinda cracks me up! I keep imagining a "Dateline" TV expose on a highway disaster and how a Split Bus could have been involved.

LOL

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:11 am    Post subject: Re: What went wrong? 61 dead on freeway. Reply with quote

Abscate wrote:
StockNazi wrote:
WTF is a freeway?


Itís a road paid for by others.


"Others"? Check out what taxes are on gas and registration in California for road repairs and construction. If you live here, YOU pay for the roads.
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I slept on crofty's tent once. I passed out drunk from two bottles of Everett's brother's wine.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:42 am    Post subject: Re: What went wrong? 61 dead on freeway. Reply with quote

crofty wrote:
Abscate wrote:
StockNazi wrote:
WTF is a freeway?
Itís a road paid for by others.
"Others"? Check out what taxes are on gas and registration in California for road repairs and construction. If you live here, YOU pay for the roads.
I don't live there, but I still pay on the tollways if I want to cross bridges in the bay area. Not that I really have a problem paying for the roads and bridges, etc.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:51 pm    Post subject: Re: What went wrong? 61 dead on freeway. Reply with quote

Lind wrote:
crofty wrote:
Abscate wrote:
StockNazi wrote:
WTF is a freeway?
Itís a road paid for by others.
"Others"? Check out what taxes are on gas and registration in California for road repairs and construction. If you live here, YOU pay for the roads.
I don't live there, but I still pay on the tollways if I want to cross bridges in the bay area. Not that I really have a problem paying for the roads and bridges, etc.


That goes to it from what ive been told but we have some of the worse roads in the US so go figure.
Today we can vote to repeal the tax that went into effect a few years back and raised my reg fees an additional +$100.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:56 pm    Post subject: Re: What went wrong? 61 dead on freeway. Reply with quote

BulliBill wrote:
"What went wrong? 61 dead on freeway."

Clara's title to this thread kinda cracks me up! I keep imagining a "Dateline" TV expose on a highway disaster and how a Split Bus could have been involved.

LOL

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:49 pm    Post subject: Re: What went wrong? 61 dead on freeway. Reply with quote

Clara wrote:
Yes, moving to California.


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