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Paul Ray
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 Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 3:36 pm Post subject: SP intake manifold help |
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I've taken out dual port intake manifolds but never the single ports. I need to replace my old one. Just need help on what is the process on this. Dual port removal looks to be a lot easier then what I can tell with single ports. I've googled and searched this forum with no luck. Videos or pictures are always a plus.
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Cusser
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| Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 3:45 pm Post subject: Re: SP intake manifold help |
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Single port manifold R&R is pretty similar to the dual ports. 10mm wrenches, sockets are needed for the 6.0mm x 1.0mm nuts, and there is no center engine attachment like on the dual ports. Single port manifolds use a round copper seal at the top of the cylinder head, make sure to remove the old one from the cylinder head though !!!
Start the nuts on all areas first before tightening any.
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Paul Ray
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| Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:03 pm Post subject: Re: SP intake manifold help |
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I understand all of that. My issue is with the dual port, I was able to do it with the engine still in the car and remove nothing else.
With the single port, it looks like I will have to take the generator stand off also to get it off. Am I wrong on that? |
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bugheadred
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| Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:08 pm Post subject: Re: SP intake manifold help |
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| I take the decklid off take the hinges for the decklid off take the fan shroud off then take the intake off dont forget to take out the throttle cable out |
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drs1023
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| Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 6:41 pm Post subject: Re: SP intake manifold help |
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| And I seem to recall that the copper washers are split on one side. That side goes DOWN into the head. |
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Paul Ray
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| Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:15 pm Post subject: Re: SP intake manifold help |
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| So I can take the shroud off without removing the generator? |
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67rustavenger
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| Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:55 pm Post subject: Re: SP intake manifold help |
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| Paul Ray wrote: |
| So I can take the shroud off without removing the generator? |
Why not just drop the engine?
It only takes a half an hour. If you have done it a few times.
It's a hell of allot quicker to drop an engine. Than removing the decklid, hinge mounts, generator, FS. What a pain in the ass!
My best time on an engine/trans removal. Was 45 minutes from start to finish. By myself. No other help!
But I was 33yo then. Now 59 
Things take a little bit more time to get completed these days.
Once the engine is out. You can address anything else that is bothering you.
Oil leaks, and the like.
Also you can clean up any wiring issues that are plaguing your engine from running correctly, or faulty tail, brake light crap.
Good Luck.
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bugheadred
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| Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:10 pm Post subject: Re: SP intake manifold help |
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| the generator comes out with the fan shroud |
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Pruneman99
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| Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:25 pm Post subject: Re: SP intake manifold help |
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I agree with 67 rust. Much easier to drop the engine. Then you can clean up/inspect/do other little maintenance while it's out.
But it's your row to hoe. Attack it how you wish. |
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Paul Ray
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| Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:25 pm Post subject: Re: SP intake manifold help |
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| Dropping the engine isn't a issue. Guess since I'm taking the generator out now, it's the perfect time to do a alternator conversion while it's out. Thanks for all the help. |
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Cusser
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| Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:54 pm Post subject: Re: SP intake manifold help |
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| Paul Ray wrote: |
| perfect time to do a alternator conversion while it's out. |
I'd only do that if I had a bad generator, or was converting from 6V to 12V. I run generator in my 1970 and my 1971.
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bnam
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| Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:06 pm Post subject: Re: SP intake manifold help |
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| Paul Ray wrote: |
I understand all of that. My issue is with the dual port, I was able to do it with the engine still in the car and remove nothing else.
With the single port, it looks like I will have to take the generator stand off also to get it off. Am I wrong on that? |
Not sure how you removed a DP manifold with the generator still in the car. Perhaps it was not a stock manifold or had removable preheater pipes.
For the stock DP manifold, you need to remove the generator.
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bugheadred
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| Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:14 pm Post subject: Re: SP intake manifold help |
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| bnam wrote: |
| Paul Ray wrote: |
I understand all of that. My issue is with the dual port, I was able to do it with the engine still in the car and remove nothing else.
With the single port, it looks like I will have to take the generator stand off also to get it off. Am I wrong on that? |
Not sure how you removed a DP manifold with the generator still in the car. Perhaps it was not a stock manifold or had removable preheater pipes.
For the stock DP manifold, you need to remove the generator. |
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Paul Ray
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| Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 11:44 am Post subject: Re: SP intake manifold help |
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| It's been many years ago. I know the car when I bought it had a double barrel webber carb setup on it. Then I put a after market stock setup on it that had removable heat risers. |
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