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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 4:41 am    Post subject: How much narrowed beam Reply with quote

Hello,

I've been through a lot of topics before asking this question. I hope you can help me with this. I'm currently in the restoration of my januari '65 convertible. Everything is apart, gearbox, rear axles, front beam, etc. The body is in restoration now and I'm fixing the 'other' parts right now.

I want to lower the car on a set of Fuchs wheels which I had laying around (I know not the most original choice, but I love the design, the way it's build, history, etc. Wink ).

For the rear I have the early deep six 6J 15" wheels and to the front I have a pair of early 5,5J 15" wheels. My question is: how much narrowing does the front end need to fit in the 5,5J wheels?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Must know the size of the tires for a guess.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends on the look you want. I have stock wheels for now & because it done 3 inches on each side they tuck deep. Once I get the Torkers or whatever I decide to get, its probably going to come out anothe inch- inch & a half. However it will still have the look I like.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You must also provide the information of what type of spindle you want to use. stock or lowered. are you going to use a disc conversion? do you know how close the offset is to the stock wheel. and of course the tire size you plan to use.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

I'm planning to convert the front 5x205 brakes to 5x130 discbrakes with dropped spindles. I can still choose the tiresize as I haven't bought them yet, I think something like 175/55/15 to go low, but prefer a little thicker tire...

Any ideas? Maybe been on this road before?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Freezzr, The picture of my car is with a 4" narrowed beam CB performance drop spindles with stock disc brakes. I am running empi 8 spokes with 195/50/15 tires and had no rubbing at all.
I actually ended up going with a 3" narrowed beam and now I have very slight rubbing on the inside with a very sharp turn. Keep in mind that if you go with a 3" or 4" narrowed beam that you will have to cut the body to clear the shock towers.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very nice car, Todd. Cool color, great stance.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jason, Thanks. Here is an updated picture with the 3" narrowed beam. And I am now riding in comfort with Volvo V70 heated leather seats!
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

toddb_67 wrote:
Jason, Thanks. Here is an updated picture with the 3" narrowed beam. And I am now riding in comfort with Volvo V70 heated leather seats!
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do you have pictures of the seats sounds interesting Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

toddb_67 wrote:
beam and now I have very slight rubbing on the inside with a very sharp turn. Keep in mind that if you go with a 3" or 4" narrowed beam that you will have to cut the body to clear the shock towers.

I don't believe that is a true statement
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heres my 58 lowlight with a 6" narrowed beam and stock width rims....its a tad narrower than I would prefer, but in the end with as low as the car is I needed it.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a shot of the seats in the car. I haven't hooked up the seat heaters yet because I'm still running a stock generator and I don't want to overwhelm it with the amperage that the seat heaters would surely draw.
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I don't believe that is a true statement


dubulup, Why would I make that up? And what part don't you believe? That you don't have to clear the body or that it barely rubs? Do you need proof? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a 4" beam and no cutting involved...I missed the OP has a 65; maybe the statement is true for non ball joint front ends
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm running early 5,5" with 185/55R15 on a 3" narrowed beam.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:50 am    Post subject: Re: How much narrowed beam Reply with quote

Freezzr wrote:
My question is: how much narrowing does the front end need to fit in the 5,5J wheels?

It really depends on how low you want to go and what size front tires you want to run. Fuchs have a pretty favorable (i.e., positive) offset, so you can fit wider tires than with lesser offset rims. I'm partial to running a stock width adjustable front beam with stock spindles. That allows me to run normal sized front tires in both width and diameter.

One important thing to keep in mind with running a narrowed beam is the availability of narrowed sway bars. I believe only 2-inch narrowed sway bars are available. If you want to go narrower, you have to custom make one.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

White line makes a 3 in narrowed sway bar for earlier K&L beams. I thought they also made one for ball joint but couldnt find it this morning.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dubulup wrote:
I have a 4" beam and no cutting involved...I missed the OP has a 65; maybe the statement is true for non ball joint front ends


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Mine is a '66 and narrowed 4". I had to cut the towers to clear the body. Could have cut the body to get the clearance but that seemed less "reversible".

it seems link pin beams have been cut 4" without cutting into the body or tower.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a 4" narrowed beam with cut off shock mounts - and it was terrible without shocks. It's dive would bottom the car out often.

I replaced it with a 2" narrowed beam from C1P, with kyb shocks, dropped spindles I think it looks a lot better without so much space in the fender.

I can turn lock to lock without bottoming out. I have 1-1/2" inches of ground clearance.

135/165's on stock 15" wheels.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your replies all. Wink really hepfull in ordering the right parts.


Great website Bluedot BTW!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tacochris wrote:
Heres my 58 lowlight with a 6" narrowed beam and stock width rims....its a tad narrower than I would prefer, but in the end with as low as the car is I needed it.
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What tire size are you running up front?
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