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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2025 7:19 am    Post subject: Tool and procedure for alternator removal Reply with quote

Hi all- trying to make sense of the instructions for removing the fan belt on a Type 1 engine, and am thoroughly puzzled.

“stick a screwdriver in the slot and brace it against one of the through bolts”

I worked professionally as a motorcycle mechanic for 7 years, and don’t own a screwdriver thin enough and long enough to a) fit in the slot and b) engage with any bolts- the “through bolts” are outside and forward of the pulley.

I used old drill bits for applications like this, but I don’t own a drill bit small enough to fit in that slot.

If you recognize the style of pulley in the phot, I would appreciate a description of the screwdriver you use on this pulley, and what, precisely, you brace the screwdriver against.

I see a 44 ft/lb nut, and the only way to remove it is to brace a stamped soft metal pulley with a tool so thin it will bend, break, or damage the component- there’s something wrong with me, the procedure description, or the automotive engineers who spec’ed the pulley and alternator.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2025 7:55 am    Post subject: Re: Tool and procedure for alternator removal Reply with quote

The manual only applies to Volkswagen parts.

That alternator and pulley are…. not.

Instead of the through bolts you’ll be using the alternator case. Any square shaft flathead will work, because you’ll hold everything carefully and perfectly angled and secure.

Rotate your pulley a few degrees clockwise and the slot will be in a usable spot compared to the case structure.

Some alternators even have a tab on their casing for this, around the 12:00 position but the people that thought of that have been dead for decades so yours is probably missing.

If you wrenched that long you probably have an impact to remove the pulley bolt ez-pz. Then you can get creative on installation, or search eBay for a good used VW pulley. I thought the new CB pulleys were good but reading more on here makes me feel otherwise.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2025 7:59 am    Post subject: Re: Tool and procedure for alternator removal Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2025 8:03 am    Post subject: Re: Tool and procedure for alternator removal Reply with quote

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Instead of the through bolts you’ll be using the alternator case. Any square shaft flathead will work, because you’ll hold everything carefully and perfectly angled and secure.


That's what I was afraid of. Ugh.

I did pull my impact wrench out of the toolchest in the garage, but I was really hoping I can do it with "in the field" tools.

Off to eBay to look for a used VW pulley. I have to think there are a lot of dinged up Brazilian alternators and pulleys out there. Alternatively- I could take a Channellock oil filter wrench and grind down the jaws to fit the slots, which is what I would have done if people paid me to deal with these pulleys.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2025 8:23 am    Post subject: Re: Tool and procedure for alternator removal Reply with quote

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..........Off to eBay .......

Don't rule out the awesome cosmic power of the Samba classifieds: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2109654
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2025 9:29 am    Post subject: Re: Tool and procedure for alternator removal Reply with quote

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Don't rule out the awesome cosmic power of the Samba classifieds: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2109654


Thanks! Did not know about these folks. Off to their website right now.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2025 10:31 am    Post subject: Re: Tool and procedure for alternator removal Reply with quote

The "through bolts" thing was applicable to the VW generators, those instructions needed to be updated for the alternators that replaced them. All of the alternators VW supplied for their beetles and etc. (and all Bosch aftermarket alts I've seen) had a tab at the top of the alt casing whose only purpose was to jam your screwdriver tip against when tightening the pulley nut. This traditional method mostly worked, but was not very satisfactory. The VW steel pulleys held up fine to this treatment, but the cast iron front pulley halves used on early bay bus generators had a tendency to chip around the notch. Using a hooked spanner instead is much nicer, but AFAIK you'll have to make your own to fit the pulley.

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Off to their website right now.


It's the same website you just posted to.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2025 10:38 am    Post subject: Re: Tool and procedure for alternator removal Reply with quote

Heavy leather glove and an impact and that nut is off in 3.14 seconds. The right tool there
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2025 2:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Tool and procedure for alternator removal Reply with quote

THis might work:
https://www.csp-shop.com/en/electric/pulley-tool-generatoralternator-012-903-100-30621c.html
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2025 3:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Tool and procedure for alternator removal Reply with quote

Any strap wrench, chain wrench or even some oil filter tools will also work.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2025 4:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Tool and procedure for alternator removal Reply with quote

KTPhil wrote:
THis might work:
https://www.csp-shop.com/en/electric/pulley-tool-generatoralternator-012-903-100-30621c.html


I was thinking about just a tool like that today. I have smaller Park Tool versions of that for removing cogs from track hubs and bottom bracket lockrings.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2025 4:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Tool and procedure for alternator removal Reply with quote

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It's the same website you just posted to.


No- it's not. This is where I was off to- the actual website where you buy the part, which is not this website.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2025 7:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Tool and procedure for alternator removal Reply with quote

KTPhil wrote:
THis might work:
https://www.csp-shop.com/en/electric/pulley-tool-generatoralternator-012-903-100-30621c.html


If not for the infernal de minimis tariffs and shipping...

Turns out you can get a nice pulley wrench in Ypsilanti! I'll have mine in a few days. No more caveman action with a screwdriver Wink

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