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alabama vw Samba Member
Joined: September 14, 2011 Posts: 9 Location: Uk
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Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:29 pm Post subject: 68 transmission in 56 t1 |
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Good evening from the uk.
Iv just found out that the gears are stripped in my 56 transmission, i have a good 4 stud transmission here i was hoping to use for the time being until i get the original rebuilt.
Am i right in that it will work with my 5 stud drums as long as i use the correct backing plates for them and fit a spacer due to the shafts apparently being longer?
I have done a search but there are so many different opinions its left me a more unsure than a previously was.
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Zundfolge1432 Samba Member
Joined: June 13, 2004 Posts: 12468
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Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2020 2:09 pm Post subject: Re: 68 transmission in 56 t1 |
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Gonna need a bus nose cone too. |
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66brm Samba Member
Joined: January 25, 2010 Posts: 3676 Location: Perth Western Australia
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Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2020 2:56 pm Post subject: Re: 68 transmission in 56 t1 |
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Zundfolge1432 wrote: |
Gonna need a bus nose cone too. |
And hockey stick _________________ Aust. RHD 66 Type 1
Aust. RHD 57 Type 1 Oval
modok wrote: |
I am an expert at fitting things in holes, been doing it a long time |
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jeffrey8164 Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2018 Posts: 3823 Location: Georgia
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Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:07 pm Post subject: Re: 68 transmission in 56 t1 |
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Can’t he just use the nose cone and hockey stick from his original tranny?
I really don’t know how different the early ones are from late. _________________ Volkswagen!
Turning owners into mechanics since 1938.
“Let he that is without oil throw the first rod”
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alabama vw Samba Member
Joined: September 14, 2011 Posts: 9 Location: Uk
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Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:50 pm Post subject: Re: 68 transmission in 56 t1 |
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Thanks for the advice guys,
Can i just question the need for a hockey stick - i was under the impression the hockey stick used in a 61-79 bug is the same as a 60-67 bus?
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[email protected] Samba Member
Joined: May 17, 2003 Posts: 4863 Location: Harmony, PA
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Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2020 6:07 pm Post subject: Re: 68 transmission in 56 t1 |
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You will need both the Bus nose cone, and Bus hockey stick. You can run the early backing plates/drums by adding a spacer under the axle nut to take up the extra length of the axles. You’ll need to use the 68 axle/backing plate caps. Keep in mind this will widen your rear track a little with the long axles/tubes. |
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volksworld Samba Member
Joined: November 26, 2011 Posts: 2530 Location: formerly NY currently NC
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Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:43 am Post subject: Re: 68 transmission in 56 t1 |
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the bus hockey stick has a different curve on the end where it goes into the shiftrails |
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petrol punk Samba Member
Joined: August 21, 2007 Posts: 978 Location: Las Vegas, NV
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Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 5:16 pm Post subject: Re: 68 transmission in 56 t1 |
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Don't know about the nosecone but do use the later backing plates and bearing caps. Pre-58 rear backing plates are 4.5mm thick, in '58 backing plates were made 5mm thick. That 0.5mm difference is enough to cause issues with swing axles seals leaking. Easier to use the later brakes than swap the axle tubes around. _________________ 36hp '56 European DeLuxe oval, '70 bug 1835cc dual 36DRLA, and a '98 4x4 5spd single cab Tacoma |
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gears Samba Member
Joined: October 28, 2002 Posts: 4391 Location: Tamarack, Bend, Kailua
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Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 8:14 am Post subject: Re: 68 transmission in 56 t1 |
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.. i was under the impression the hockey stick used in a 61-79 bug is the same as a 60-67 bus? .. |
No, the Bus version nosecone (& hockey stick) locate the hockeystick 25mm lower ... perfect for installing the later tunnelcase trans in a '50s Bug. _________________ aka Pablo, Geary
9.36 @ 146 in '86 Hot & Sticky
'90 Syncro Westy SVX
'87 Syncro GL 2.5
https://guardtransaxle.com |
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madmike Samba Member
Joined: July 11, 2005 Posts: 5292 Location: Atlanta,Michigan
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Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:39 am Post subject: Re: 68 transmission in 56 t1 |
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Their is a front trans mount that makes them fit, but it's solid mount _________________ 'Black Ice'Drag Buggy 'Turbo'
Rail Buggy 1915 turbo
76 Drag/Street bug 2180cc 'Turbo' 11:85 @113 mph"If I go any faster I'll burn up the Hamster" ,gets 28 mpg. also 10/09/22 11.90 @115 mph
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