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1970 Buggy
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 Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 8:23 pm Post subject: Vapor Digital Gauge ? |
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Has anyone used a electrical Vapor Digital Gauge in a rail buggy or VW before? I saw a forum about this gauge set up but after looking in to it I don't think that the speedometer part will work for a actual car wheel.
My speedometer cable broke therefore I'm looking for other options.
http://www.trailtech.net/vapor.html
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Aruba1
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| Been tinkering with this idea too, hopefully someone can chime in. |
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cgummerson11
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| The trail tech kit comes with a magnetic bolt that goes on the brake rotor for a MC or ATV, then the pick up is drilled to be mounted on the brake caliper. If you could get the magnet to stay on your wheel, and find a place to mount the receiver/pickup, it would work. Vapors wheel sizes are customizable, but may not be 100% accurate. |
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ORANGECRUSHer
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| Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 5:45 am Post subject: |
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This would be nice. I don't see a universal option unfortunately.
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58Dub
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| Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:28 am Post subject: |
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could you just mount the magnet to the CV joint and fab up a bracket off the trans for the pick-up?
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ORANGECRUSHer
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I was picturing the front brake drum but I like your CV idea as long as it handles that diameter ok and is adjustable which most are but this one doesn't mention it which makes me wonder why they don't offer anything non-vehical specific.
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OrangeCrushERBerrien Warrior-2.4L Quad4-2x3 arms-1.5Fox coilovers-094-930CVs
LAZY MARY1970 Baja 2110cc-82mm CB forged crank-AA pistons/cylinders-Grant rings-1.1 vw rockers-CB serpkit-CB chromoly PRs-CB maxiflow filter pump-wix51515 filter-Dual 44IDF-cut/turned front beam-AEM wideband-Auber CHT-Donaldson Dual PowerCore filters-custom AL air boxes |
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cgummerson11
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| Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Not sure how just the magnet that comes in the kit would stay on the front wheel, then you could mount the pick up on the front shock. I dont know how close the pick up has to be to get the signal. I will take my bike pick up and move it a foot away and see if I can get a signal. |
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Aruba1
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I got an email from the guy that sells them on here, he said I'll need a speedometer extension otherwise the kit is pretty much complete. I'll call him tomorrow to get more information but if the kit is complete as he claiming I'll buy one. For a buggy it sure would be nice to replace all them gauges with a small digital cluster.
I found some other information through google (forgot the site) but it sees that the rpm is a bit erratic. Has anyone experenced that? |
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ORANGECRUSHer
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| Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 3:54 am Post subject: |
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For a buggy it sure would be nice to replace all them gauges with a small digital cluster.
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i'll second that. space is definitely golden
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Aruba1
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| I spoke with the seller this morning, the gauges no longer comes with tachometer as they were erratic to start with. The package comes with a kit to attach the speedo to the rear disk brake, if you have drum you need to get an extension or something ($11 extra). For aircooled temp reading it comes with an adapter that attaches to one of the spark plugs. I think I will skip on the kits due to not having a tachometer and I will probably wait till they improve the RPM reading. |
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ORANGECRUSHer
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I was kinda the opposite. I think nothing displays rpms as well as a needle guage. As for the speed sensor, I'm sure there's a lot of ways you can skin that cat. I'd just be worried about that Tach bit. If they can't get that to work right what else is iffy?
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doom buggy
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| Aruba1 wrote: |
| I spoke with the seller this morning, the gauges no longer comes with tachometer as they were erratic to start with. The package comes with a kit to attach the speedo to the rear disk brake, if you have drum you need to get an extension or something ($11 extra). For aircooled temp reading it comes with an adapter that attaches to one of the spark plugs. I think I will skip on the kits due to not having a tachometer and I will probably wait till they improve the RPM reading. |
?i just spoke with trailtech the last couple weeks and the tech was explaining how to hook everything up including the tach.he actually quoted me on a vapor stealth and said the tach is a digital numarical readout and a bar graph.i think they still come with the tach from what the company told me.
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Aruba1
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| Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Very well could be the case but the seller that posts them for sale on Samba does not provide them with a tach. |
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Aruba1
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| doom buggy wrote: |
| ?i just spoke with trailtech the last couple weeks and the tech was explaining how to hook everything up including the tach.he actually quoted me on a vapor stealth and said the tach is a digital numarical readout and a bar graph.i think they still come with the tach from what the company told me. |
There are several threads on the internet about the rpm issue. I'll will consider buying two kits if they can fix the problem. Some of the threads mentions messing with some of the programming settings to get it to work but accuracy is still questionable. https://www.google.com/#output=search&sclient=...mp;bih=653 |
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doom buggy
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do you have a link to the vendor that sells them without the tach function?just wondering,ive never seen a trail tech vapor without the tach,ive seen a bunch in person when i used to ride dual sports and online.maybe he was talking about one of the other computers trail tech makes,such as the striker,vector,or endurance computers?
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Aruba1
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Aruba1
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doom buggy
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| I spoke with the seller this morning, the gauges no longer comes with tachometer as they were erratic to start with. . |
i would steer clear of that vendor,i emailed him about a vapor stealth model and he doesent know what im talking about(he should know what that is being a vendor).i just got off the phone with trailtech directly,i asked them if they made the stealth model still and they said,of course,its the black version.then i said i was told that they dont have a tach anymore,the guy on the other end of the phone laughed a little and said "no they have always had a tach function,thats one of the key fetures of the vapor".you can order directly from trail tech,then at least you know your getting the right thing.
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Aruba1
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| Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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| If you end up getting the setup please let us know how it works. I am ready to try it one of the sand rails but there are no reviews of VW owners to warrant the purchase. |
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Jhawk
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| Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 11:33 am Post subject: |
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| If you end up getting the setup please let us know how it works. I am ready to try it one of the sand rails but there are no reviews of VW owners to warrant the purchase. |
Well this is a old thread but I am wondering if anyone has installed a Trail Tech unit since he last post and if so how has it performed. Thanks |
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