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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 11:35 am    Post subject: remote filter... Reply with quote

i've mounted a remote filter set up for my car, but i don't know what filter # to use.... anyone remember which number works for these?

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

looks like fram hp1 Wink Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I want to say early rabbit, but I am unsure. If you search the bus forum, some people were just talking about it, and of course saying not to use fram filters. Wix or napa gold, but I already knew that part from my watercooled days
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm using a K&N, this was recommended to me. I can get you the number if you want Brian.

Don't use a regular Fram! I've heard that there are issues with the run-of-the-mill Pep Boys, Smucks, Wal*Mart cheapie Fram oil filters.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PH8A also works, but is not high pressure designed and I've "heard" of them bursting. I use the HP1 myself.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I have one that has been removed out in the shop that still has the filter installed.
I can go look at it.
BTW, did you know that a lot of the filters on the market all come off the same assembly line. Just different colored paint or stamp in the printer.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm asking which HP1 guys or NAPA gold, or WIX #... i won't use an HP1 as i have had 2 rupture on other rides... I just need the # so i can get a NAPA gold (aka Wix) today. thanks!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think I have one that has been removed out in the shop that still has the filter installed.
I can go look at it.
BTW, did you know that a lot of the filters on the market all come off the same assembly line. Just different colored paint or stamp in the printer.


yep! the Wix/Napa Gold use a plastic relief valve and the Fram uses a cardboard rv...


thanks russ i could use the #! i can cross reference it at the store tonight.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vwfye wrote:
i'm asking which HP1 guys or NAPA gold, or WIX #... i won't use an HP1 as i have had 2 rupture on other rides... I just need the # so i can get a NAPA gold (aka Wix) today. thanks!


Huh. Confused I've had HP1s since I've gotten the Notch running and no issues. The kit from GB even came w/ one.

I've got a MANN filter (German made) in the garage....the number on the box: W 940/25. Don't know if that helps. Confused
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks! yes, i had two HP1s fail in cold weather start ups.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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thanks! yes, i had two HP1s fail in cold weather start ups.


That's probably it. I don't start my car when it's cold. Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you cut up a fram filter, then go cut up a wix or napa gold filet, you will see why not to use a fram. they are junk, cardbord string and glue.. the relief valve is the main issue. Mann is a much better filter, wix or napa gold is the way to go, and they are not expensive
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=328494&highlight=fram
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

localboy wrote:
PH8A also works, but is not high pressure designed and I've "heard" of them bursting. I use the HP1 myself.


also, the HP1 and the PH8a are the same thing, one has a bigger canister
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

looks like the NAPA filter is FIL 1452. I will be picking one of those up this week! Thanks for the Mann #, that helped!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad to be of service. I picked up the MANN for the next oil change [on the Notch] the last time I was in our local ACVW parts store.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Erik G wrote:
localboy wrote:
PH8A also works, but is not high pressure designed and I've "heard" of them bursting. I use the HP1 myself.


also, the HP1 and the PH8a are the same thing, one has a bigger canister

This guy likes the HP1:
http://www.aircooledtech.com/oil_filter/

I've been using HP1 since the day Gene Berg sent me one in my kit. Never an issue and seems to be doing it's job. I also run the Berg pressure relief valve so over-pressure isn't an issue for me in the cold...and my oil gauge proves it as well Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Erik G wrote:
localboy wrote:
PH8A also works, but is not high pressure designed and I've "heard" of them bursting. I use the HP1 myself.


also, the HP1 and the PH8a are the same thing, one has a bigger canister

This guy likes the HP1:
http://www.aircooledtech.com/oil_filter/

I've been using HP1 since the day Gene Berg sent me one in my kit. Never an issue and seems to be doing it's job. I also run the Berg pressure relief valve so over-pressure isn't an issue for me in the cold...and my oil gauge proves it as well Wink


better parts are better parts, fram is not owned by the company as it was back in the day. here is a long list of types, plus pics of them disassembled, etc http://www.knizefamily.net/minimopar/oilfilters/opinions.html
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I've seen that page and others. He does recommend HP1 for [Mopar] racing applications. Unfortunately, he doesn't have flow data, only observational.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One thing that he does not mention, and he may not be aware of it, but Mahle now owns Dana/Wix, and they also own Mann.
Most of their oil filters are assembled in China now.
We shipped a complete oil filter line that came out of Murfreesboro, TN last year to China.
Champion Filters is owned by a big conglomerate known as UCI. A competitor to Mahle.
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