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ourv12 Samba Member
Joined: November 30, 2006 Posts: 492 Location: Great SouthWest Michigan
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:54 pm Post subject: 91 vanagon struggles with low power |
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My 91 Vanagon struggles to accelerate after it gets to operating temps. Ive noticed that if i drive it shortly after cold start up it has more power cause Im assuming its running richer during cold startup. Once it gets to normal operating temps its struggles to accelerate and it resembles it being starved of fuel like maybe running lean?? What would cause it to starve of fuel after it gets to operating temps? It starts just fine warm or cold and idles fine but driving under load is different story. Its had new fuel filter, plugs, o2 sensor fairly new, temp sensor is fairly new, injectors are good, cap and rotor, plug wires, and timing is slightly advanced. Any ideas what would cause it to run too lean? |
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MarkWard Samba Member

Joined: February 09, 2005 Posts: 18688 Location: Retired South Florida
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:03 pm Post subject: Re: 91 vanagon struggles with low power |
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It takes more fuel to accelerate than it does to rev the engine in neutral. First step would be to measure the fuel pressure. Fuel pressure may be fine on start up, but falls off as the pump warms up. |
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Ahwahnee Samba Member

Joined: June 05, 2010 Posts: 10209 Location: Mt Lemmon, AZ
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:20 pm Post subject: Re: 91 vanagon struggles with low power |
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Other suspects might include a short to ground in the fat green O2 coax wire (would cause it to run rich but only after a few minutes) or a plugged catalytic converter.
What di the plugs look like? |
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ourv12 Samba Member
Joined: November 30, 2006 Posts: 492 Location: Great SouthWest Michigan
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:36 pm Post subject: Re: 91 vanagon struggles with low power |
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Ahwahnee wrote: |
Other suspects might include a short to ground in the fat green O2 coax wire (would cause it to run rich but only after a few minutes) or a plugged catalytic converter.
What di the plugs look like? |
The cat is gutted so its definitely not the cat. I will check plugs next. |
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ourv12 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:38 pm Post subject: Re: 91 vanagon struggles with low power |
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MarkWard wrote: |
It takes more fuel to accelerate than it does to rev the engine in neutral. First step would be to measure the fuel pressure. Fuel pressure may be fine on start up, but falls off as the pump warms up. |
So is that a sign of a (going bad pump) ? |
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ourv12 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:46 pm Post subject: Re: 91 vanagon struggles with low power |
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[quote="Ahwahnee"]Other suspects might include a short to ground in the fat green O2 coax wire (would cause it to run rich but only after a few minutes)
Is there a way to check the 02 coax wire with a ohm meter for a short to ground?? |
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MarkWard Samba Member

Joined: February 09, 2005 Posts: 18688 Location: Retired South Florida
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:50 pm Post subject: Re: 91 vanagon struggles with low power |
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ourv12 wrote: |
MarkWard wrote: |
It takes more fuel to accelerate than it does to rev the engine in neutral. First step would be to measure the fuel pressure. Fuel pressure may be fine on start up, but falls off as the pump warms up. |
So is that a sign of a (going bad pump) ? |
Low measured fuel pressure might be a result of an aging pump. Measure the fuel pressure to eliminate it as a problem.
Troubleshooting often is a process of elimination. 4 stroke engines need 3 things to run. Good even compression, good spark, and plenty of fuel. Jumping around often you will miss something. |
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ourv12 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:59 pm Post subject: Re: 91 vanagon struggles with low power |
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MarkWard wrote: |
ourv12 wrote: |
MarkWard wrote: |
It takes more fuel to accelerate than it does to rev the engine in neutral. First step would be to measure the fuel pressure. Fuel pressure may be fine on start up, but falls off as the pump warms up. |
So is that a sign of a (going bad pump) ? |
Low measured fuel pressure might be a result of an aging pump. Measure the fuel pressure to eliminate it as a problem.
Troubleshooting often is a process of elimination. 4 stroke engines need 3 things to run. Good even compression, good spark, and plenty of fuel. Jumping around often you will miss something. |
The fuel pressure was checked not too long ago according to how the Bentley describes and it is in spec. Also the fuel pump came from a great running van so I kinda doubt its the pump. |
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DanHoug Samba Member

Joined: December 05, 2016 Posts: 5666 Location: Bemidji, MN
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:54 pm Post subject: Re: 91 vanagon struggles with low power |
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take your voltmeter, ground the negative lead and slip the positive underneath the rubber boot of the O2 sensor connector in the engine bay. you'll be expecting values between 0-1vdc if your meter needs to be set on a range. you want the O2 sensor connected and the voltmeter on it.
with the engine warm, look for frequently varying values above and below 0.5v.... like once a second or so. that's the sign of a healthy O2 sensor and engine management changing the mixture as needed.
assuming a healthy O2 sensor (which can quickly and easily be contaminated by silicone from RTV sealant), a steady low value below 0.5v shows a lean condition. conversely, above 0.5 is indicating rich. generally, there are many ways that gets fooled up. _________________ -dan
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MarkWard Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:59 pm Post subject: Re: 91 vanagon struggles with low power |
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You didn’t mention you had checked the fuel pressure with a replacement pump. You still need to figure out if it’s compression, fuel, or spark. |
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