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dieselnut Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 7:25 pm Post subject: 1958 Westy Kit Questions |
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The tents were three color, correct? Did the separate outhouse 'room' in the tent start in mid - '59? Was the tent standard or optional?
How does the roof rack differ from the 'sloper' rack of so-23 era? Just the clamps or was there more to it? Was the rack standard or optional?
Does the wood on the ceiling differ from the '58 kit to the so23 era? Is this the Limba wood Lind was referring to in another post?
Are the cabinets done in Limba wood or Baltic Birch?
What are the cabinet handles made out of? (metal, wood, etc.) Would these be difficult to fabricate?
Was there a toilet w/ this kit? Standard or optional? _________________
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Lind Samba Member

Joined: November 06, 2000 Posts: 10280 Location: idaho
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Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 9:21 pm Post subject: Re: 1958 Westy Kit Questions |
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| The tents were three color, correct? Did the separate outhouse 'room' in the tent start in mid - '59? Was the tent standard or optional? |
two three or four color with no privy room.
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How does the roof rack differ from the 'sloper' rack of so-23 era? Just the clamps or was there more to it? Was the rack standard or optional?
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the rack legs are shorte, so it hugs the roofline closer. the tallest leg is about the same hieght as the shortest leg on a SO-23 era sloped rack
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Does the wood on the ceiling differ from the '58 kit to the so23 era? Is this the Limba wood Lind was referring to in another post?
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roof wood should be the same
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Are the cabinets done in Limba wood or Baltic Birch?
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limba according to the literature
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What are the cabinet handles made out of? (metal, wood, etc.) Would these be difficult to fabricate? |
brass
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Was there a toilet w/ this kit? Standard or optional? |
not to my knowledge
take a look at my website, there are plenty of pictures there.
http://www.westfaliaregistry.com/022.html |
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Stocknazi Samba Member

Joined: June 18, 2004 Posts: 5564
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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i have a question concerning the edgeing that was applyed to the stove cabinet and around the seat bench lid edge. you can clearly see it is a darker color in the brochoures. was this stained veneer, black limba? _________________ WANTED:
58 Westfalia cabinet knobs (3 needed), roof rack, and (7) privy tent poles (silver painted).
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[email protected] Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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| The plywood looks darker on the edge because your seeing the core wood the plywood was made from. They used lumber core plywood for all the cabinets and table, its the solid lumber core you are seeing. |
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Stocknazi Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:39 am Post subject: |
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Yes the core wood where ytou see the plys does look darker. the stove cabinet as wll as the edges of the fold up seat benches has a veneer covering the core edges for a cleaner look. it also was used on the flip up table. it is distinctivly darker. look at the pics of the white lowest milage 58. _________________ WANTED:
58 Westfalia cabinet knobs (3 needed), roof rack, and (7) privy tent poles (silver painted).
"When the people are afraid of the government, that's tyranny. But when the government is afraid of the people, that's liberty."
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
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[email protected] Samba Member

Joined: September 22, 2002 Posts: 1246
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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 12:02 am Post subject: |
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If it's the white painted over palm green / sand green from maine, they have been refinshed so maybe not the very best guide. All the wood venear and edge banding on all the ones I have seen are limba. some might be dark some even lighter.
The limba has a pretty big color range from almost back to light yellow.
one thing I have noticed ,with the limba plywood used ,it is very light in weight. I wonder if a antigue aircraft supplie house might know were to get limba plywood? |
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Lind Samba Member

Joined: November 06, 2000 Posts: 10280 Location: idaho
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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 8:49 am Post subject: |
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If it's the white painted over palm green / sand green from maine, they have been refinshed so maybe not the very best guide. All the wood venear and edge banding on all the ones I have seen are limba. some might be dark some even lighter.
The limba has a pretty big color range from almost back to light yellow.
one thing I have noticed ,with the limba plywood used ,it is very light in weight. I wonder if a antigue aircraft supplie house might know were to get limba plywood? |
I have seen that bus in person, and I don't believe that the interior of that bus has been refinished. it just never saw much sun. _________________ .
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[email protected] Samba Member

Joined: September 22, 2002 Posts: 1246
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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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I could be wrong but I was there with you Lind and it looked redone to me, a bit to much gloss for a og lacqure finsh. It sure did look nice I would love to own that 58 from maine.
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Every year westfalia up to 59 and racks and tents and what the hell your rotted warn out limba cabintes. |
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Stocknazi Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 9:54 am Post subject: |
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that's the bus, very nice interior indeed.
i can see the difference in most pics i have seen; some more obvious than others. i would guess westfalia may have used a stain on the edging, or used some of the darker colored limba veneer. _________________ WANTED:
58 Westfalia cabinet knobs (3 needed), roof rack, and (7) privy tent poles (silver painted).
"When the people are afraid of the government, that's tyranny. But when the government is afraid of the people, that's liberty."
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
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Randy Croley Samba Member
Joined: May 20, 2012 Posts: 4 Location: wichita kansas
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Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2024 10:06 am Post subject: Re: 1958 Westy Kit Questions |
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| The edging that you are asking about is Mahogany |
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earlywesty Samba Member

Joined: May 03, 2004 Posts: 2383 Location: In the woods, Ontario
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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2024 6:41 am Post subject: Re: 1958 Westy Kit Questions |
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| Randy Croley wrote: |
| The edging that you are asking about is Mahogany |
Yes, it is! Also, while we are correcting comments earlier in this thread the 58 westy cabinet knobs are not madw of brass. They have a brass-like finish but are made of light steel that is painted or treated in some way to look like brass. |
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sub-hatchtim Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2006 Posts: 2694 Location: Phoenix AZ
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2024 6:03 pm Post subject: Re: 1958 Westy Kit Questions |
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Jacek in poland has made some very very nice reproduction knobs. He might have some left, he did a limited 1 time run _________________ 58' pg/sg silo fridge westy
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WestyJacek Samba Member

Joined: October 20, 2023 Posts: 22 Location: Poland
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 2:34 pm Post subject: Re: 1958 Westy Kit Questions |
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| sub-hatchtim wrote: |
| Jacek in poland has made some very very nice reproduction knobs. He might have some left, he did a limited 1 time run |
🤔 I think I still have got some extra ones. Yes they were made from the light steel and they were covered by brass on a surface. I loved that's project 🤘 I have learned a lot working on those repro knobs. |
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WestyJacek Samba Member

Joined: October 20, 2023 Posts: 22 Location: Poland
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2024 2:39 pm Post subject: Re: 1958 Westy Kit Questions |
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