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madmike Samba Member
Joined: July 11, 2005 Posts: 5300 Location: Atlanta,Michigan
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 4:51 am Post subject: motor locked up |
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Here one for the engine builders, specs are:
2074cc
5.5 Heams
fk 8 w 1:4's
044 heads , turned over with about 2 fingers ,so no pinched bearings,,
I had this on my test stand with oil in it and 'turned over repeatedly w/starter"
then decided to sell the deep sump off it now it won't turn over CLOCKWISE ,,only backward counterclockwise WTF? I'm tearing it down Maybe a chipmunk got an acorn stuck in there??? _________________ 'Black Ice'Drag Buggy 'Turbo'
Rail Buggy 1915 turbo
76 Drag/Street bug 2180cc 'Turbo' 11:85 @113 mph"If I go any faster I'll burn up the Hamster" ,gets 28 mpg. also 10/09/22 11.90 @115 mph
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busdaddy Samba Member

Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 52676 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 8:21 am Post subject: Re: motor locked up |
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Is there a distributor in it? _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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madmike Samba Member
Joined: July 11, 2005 Posts: 5300 Location: Atlanta,Michigan
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 8:29 am Post subject: Re: motor locked up |
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Ha ,1st thing I checked , pulled dizzy,, then the drive gear,, same , pulled the cover off the pump too,, then slid the pump out a bit ,,SAME DAMN THING tanking a break,,,,,,, _________________ 'Black Ice'Drag Buggy 'Turbo'
Rail Buggy 1915 turbo
76 Drag/Street bug 2180cc 'Turbo' 11:85 @113 mph"If I go any faster I'll burn up the Hamster" ,gets 28 mpg. also 10/09/22 11.90 @115 mph
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evanfrucht Samba Member

Joined: July 24, 2016 Posts: 2186 Location: Laurel Canyon, CA
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 8:52 am Post subject: Re: motor locked up |
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Is it fully stuck or does it move slightly and then hit something?
Pickup tube thing got twisted around when you yanked out that sump?
Did you leave the ratchet on the crank pulley? just kidding _________________ 1967 Bug ( the daily rod )
1964 Fury Wagon ( the pavement shredder ) |
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74 Thing Samba Member

Joined: September 02, 2004 Posts: 7627
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:51 am Post subject: Re: motor locked up |
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Did you take the rockers and pushrods out?
I am assuming the flywheel is on and torqued to spec with correct endplay. |
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mark tucker Samba Member

Joined: April 08, 2009 Posts: 23950 Location: SHALIMAR ,FLORIDA
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:55 am Post subject: Re: motor locked up |
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I would think something in the gear housing thats acting like a ratshit letting it rotate one way but not the other. have you fliped the engine around? was there a nut or somethen on a sump stud that came loose like the puckup sttd nut and it's posiably doing that to the crank agnist the case? have you asked your chip monk? |
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madmike Samba Member
Joined: July 11, 2005 Posts: 5300 Location: Atlanta,Michigan
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:24 am Post subject: Re: motor locked up |
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Funny thing is it turns over backasswards ,then turn the right way and it only goes a 1/4-1/2" and stops
pulled the rockers & heads right after fuckin with the dizzy
siding with Mark on this Chip Or Dale ?  _________________ 'Black Ice'Drag Buggy 'Turbo'
Rail Buggy 1915 turbo
76 Drag/Street bug 2180cc 'Turbo' 11:85 @113 mph"If I go any faster I'll burn up the Hamster" ,gets 28 mpg. also 10/09/22 11.90 @115 mph
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madmike Samba Member
Joined: July 11, 2005 Posts: 5300 Location: Atlanta,Michigan
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Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 8:00 am Post subject: Re: motor locked up |
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"ALVIN"  _________________ 'Black Ice'Drag Buggy 'Turbo'
Rail Buggy 1915 turbo
76 Drag/Street bug 2180cc 'Turbo' 11:85 @113 mph"If I go any faster I'll burn up the Hamster" ,gets 28 mpg. also 10/09/22 11.90 @115 mph
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RWK Samba Member
Joined: June 24, 2009 Posts: 1604 Location: S.W. MI
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Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 8:06 am Post subject: Re: motor locked up |
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Come on Mike,Chipmunks store there nuts in the fall, here in MI, looks like a Mike stud! _________________ 73 Type 181
63 Type 113
63 Type 261- 428 071
62 Type 241-378 025 178 530 |
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mark tucker Samba Member

Joined: April 08, 2009 Posts: 23950 Location: SHALIMAR ,FLORIDA
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Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 8:36 am Post subject: Re: motor locked up |
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yup that will do it. one of the chip&dale studs took up residence there trying to get geared up for a hot summer stripping off threads. |
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txoval Samba Member
Joined: January 23, 2004 Posts: 3838 Location: The Woodlands, TX
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Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 8:47 am Post subject: Re: motor locked up |
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That definitely sucks |
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67rustavenger Samba Member

Joined: February 24, 2015 Posts: 10941 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 8:53 am Post subject: Re: motor locked up |
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Well there's your problem, right there!
Curious where that stud came from and how it got there.
Oh, and I dropped a FP stud into the obis a few years ago. It was the last fastener I needed to install to complete the build.
Got to do the build all over as the stud was lodged behind the cam gear.  _________________ I have learned over the years.
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busdaddy Samba Member

Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 52676 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 9:04 am Post subject: Re: motor locked up |
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Sooooo much better to find that now, opposed to at speed during break in.  _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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madmike Samba Member
Joined: July 11, 2005 Posts: 5300 Location: Atlanta,Michigan
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Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 9:14 am Post subject: Re: motor locked up |
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and nobody caught that defector is bassackwards
probably won't matter I run sand seals
Yea I probably had a stud finger started and removed the turbo drain ,can I use a stock 3 bolt 'flat'cam gear on my engel??
I chipped a cpl. teeth on this one  _________________ 'Black Ice'Drag Buggy 'Turbo'
Rail Buggy 1915 turbo
76 Drag/Street bug 2180cc 'Turbo' 11:85 @113 mph"If I go any faster I'll burn up the Hamster" ,gets 28 mpg. also 10/09/22 11.90 @115 mph
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txoval Samba Member
Joined: January 23, 2004 Posts: 3838 Location: The Woodlands, TX
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Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 9:20 am Post subject: Re: motor locked up |
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It will fit, but need to check gear lash |
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Xevin  Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 9:24 am Post subject: Re: motor locked up |
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mark tucker wrote: |
yup that will do it. one of the chip&dale studs took up residence there trying to get geared up for a hot summer stripping off threads. |
Brilliant
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67rustavenger wrote: |
GFY's Xevin and VW_Jimbo! |
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Damn that Xevin...  |
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My God! Xevin and I 100% agree |
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chrisflstf Samba Member

Joined: February 10, 2004 Posts: 4005 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 9:38 am Post subject: Re: motor locked up |
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So what exactly happened? How did that stud get there? |
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madmike Samba Member
Joined: July 11, 2005 Posts: 5300 Location: Atlanta,Michigan
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Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 9:50 am Post subject: Re: motor locked up |
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I had started the stud with fingertorque, was mocking up the turbo ,flipped the motor to remove the sump : Manure Occureth  _________________ 'Black Ice'Drag Buggy 'Turbo'
Rail Buggy 1915 turbo
76 Drag/Street bug 2180cc 'Turbo' 11:85 @113 mph"If I go any faster I'll burn up the Hamster" ,gets 28 mpg. also 10/09/22 11.90 @115 mph
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evanfrucht Samba Member

Joined: July 24, 2016 Posts: 2186 Location: Laurel Canyon, CA
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Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 1:50 pm Post subject: Re: motor locked up |
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mark tucker wrote: |
yup that will do it. one of the chip&dale studs took up residence there trying to get geared up for a hot summer stripping off threads. |
Keep up the good work You almost made me shit my pants this morning with that one... good thing I was only on my first cup  _________________ 1967 Bug ( the daily rod )
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toxicavenger70 Samba Member

Joined: July 28, 2019 Posts: 882 Location: CO
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Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2021 2:25 pm Post subject: Re: motor locked up |
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evanfrucht wrote: |
mark tucker wrote: |
yup that will do it. one of the chip&dale studs took up residence there trying to get geared up for a hot summer stripping off threads. |
Keep up the good work You almost made me shit my pants this morning with that one... good thing I was only on my first cup  |
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