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59 dormi
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 Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 1:04 pm Post subject: Removing Front brake drum,wheel bearing won’t release come out?? |
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Has anyone had this issue before? I’m trying to remove the brake drum usually undo the lock nuts wiggle drum it pops out
This bus hasn’t been on the road in over 40 years the bearings roll like they were installed yesterday so I don’t want to destroy the bearings any ideas???
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| Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 1:32 pm Post subject: Re: Removing Front brake drum,wheel bearing won’t release come out?? |
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How are you holding your mouth? Are you using the correct cuss words? Other than that I have no answers for you 
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| Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 1:57 pm Post subject: Re: Removing Front brake drum,wheel bearing won’t release come out?? |
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| Sometimes you need to back off the brake shoes. |
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59 dormi
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| Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 5:10 pm Post subject: Re: Removing Front brake drum,wheel bearing won’t release come out?? |
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Yep already swore at it
Shoes are backed off and the wheel spins freely I take the drum off with the wheel still attached
With the bearings being on there for so long it may be stuck to the spindle but how do I get it free without damaging the bearings or the spindle
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| Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:41 pm Post subject: Re: Removing Front brake drum,wheel bearing won’t release come out?? |
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Drum puller?
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59 dormi
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| Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:33 pm Post subject: Re: Removing Front brake drum,wheel bearing won’t release come out?? |
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Got it  so I did get the drum puller out but what I actually did was tap the rim from the back in four places (tap not pound) eventually it started to move off the spindle with the help of a little pb blaster and the bearings survived!
However is there not supposed to be a dust seal on the inner bearing ?
Sorry I lent out the Bentley a few years ago and it hasn’t returned so I’m trying to go off memory 
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| Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:33 am Post subject: Re: Removing Front brake drum,wheel bearing won�t release come out?? |
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| 66 dormi wrote: |
Got it so I did get the drum puller out but what I actually did was tap the rim from the back in four places (tap not pound) eventually it started to move off the spindle with the help of a little pb blaster and the bearings survived!
However is there not supposed to be a dust seal on the inner bearing ?
Sorry I lent out the Bentley a few years ago and it hasn�t returned so I�m trying to go off memory |
Did the bearing stay on the spindle? The grease seal presses onto the drum and will be behind the bearing if it is still on the spindle. |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 5:19 pm Post subject: Re: Removing Front brake drum,wheel bearing won’t release come out?? |
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Yes the inner bearing stayed on the spindle once the drum came off ,but there’s no dust seal on the drum seems odd I’m pretty sure 66 had a seal there but these earlier bus I don’t know
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| Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 5:51 pm Post subject: Re: Removing Front brake drum,wheel bearing won’t release come out?? |
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It is probably still on the spindle behind the bearing, if the bearing is still on the spindle. You will still have to get the bearing of the spindle to properly re install the bearing and then the seal in the Drum before reassembly.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:05 pm Post subject: Re: Removing Front brake drum,wheel bearing won’t release come out?? |
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Inner bearing is off the spindle now there’s no sign of a seal to be found so I’m guessing someone has just put this together so it would roll at some point...there were no linings left on the shoes ether
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| Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:17 pm Post subject: Re: Removing Front brake drum,wheel bearing won’t release come out?? |
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Yes You are probably right, the brake shoes linings usually just fall off when a stuck drum is removed. Be sure that the spacer is still there on the spindle behind the bearing when re assembling. If the bearing was exposed to moisture because of the seal being gone it could have rusted. Even a small amount of rust can be detrimental to a bearing surface so an intensive cleaning and inspection is recommended .
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| Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2025 8:52 am Post subject: Re: Removing Front brake drum,wheel bearing won�t release come out?? |
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| 66 dormi wrote: |
Got it so I did get the drum puller out but what I actually did was tap the rim from the back in four places (tap not pound) eventually it started to move off the spindle with the help of a little pb blaster and the bearings survived!
However is there not supposed to be a dust seal on the inner bearing ?
Sorry I lent out the Bentley a few years ago and it hasn�t returned so I�m trying to go off memory |
Did the bearing stay on the spindle? The grease seal presses onto the drum and will be behind the bearing if it is still on the spindle. |
Most front drums seem to retain the inner bearing/seal as they are removed; assuming from years of on/off wear.
Should the inner bearing (55-63) stay pressed on the spindle when you remove the drum, pulling itself and the dust seal out as the drum is removed???
The Bently mentions having to pull off the inner bearing and checking the spindle races for wear, so I assume the inner race of the inner bearing should be a snug fit on the spindle?
I prefer the bearing/seal to come off with the drum as it creates more of a grease mess to pull the inner bearing off the spindle each time you remove the drum. Add to that the extra risk of bearing contamination. The lock plates work well, but are consumables. However, if you have 64-67 spindles, the bay window Porsche style lock nuts work more better. They really make bearing adjustment a breeze.
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| Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2025 1:44 am Post subject: Re: Removing Front brake drum,wheel bearing won’t release come out?? |
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| maybe you can put the wheel on the brake drum and it will help to remove ... have same issue |
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| Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2025 8:27 am Post subject: Re: Removing Front brake drum,wheel bearing won’t release come out?? |
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| maybe you can put the wheel on the brake drum and it will help to remove ... have same issue |
Ni issue at all getting the drum loose as I have the adjusters backed off. The inner wheel bearing (and early felt seal) stays pressed on the spindle when I remove the drum. Most front drums will pull off by hand with the inner bearing/seal still inside the race.
I was asking if this was OK or should the inner bearing race be such a tight fit to the spindle race to require a puller to remove???
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| Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2025 11:35 am Post subject: Re: Removing Front brake drum,wheel bearing won’t release come out?? |
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This just happened to a friend of mine. We had to cut the bearing off.. we found a lip on the spindle holding it in place.
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